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Funny that because many people say that about Tyneside.
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Funny that because many people say that about Tyneside.
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"My city is full of people that can barely speak English, immigrant and chav alike."
You don't like immigrants or people that don't speak English. So yeah I would say foreigners is close enough.
You don't like immigrants or people that don't speak English. So yeah I would say foreigners is close enough.
I dont like people in Britain who dont speak english. Does that make me racist?
I was talking about England, saying that no-one speaks English. Pretty simple really, if you read the subject then the content (in that order).
My reasons are different I suppose, but the effect is the same. I very much want out, I'm just not in a position to do that at the moment. I will though, obviously there's no way i could settle down or try to raise my own family here.
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No. Infact I agree that they should adopt our language and it annoys me we bend over backwards to pay for translators.
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How about adding something to the debate other then your initial post. If we are misunderstanding what you want from this thread then correct us and expand on things a little more rather than one liners and put downs.
You have a view of the UK that I think is heavily skewed, but you don't want to leave, you don't want to listen to anyone else's view and you don't appear to wan to improve things.
England is an excellent place, as are Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
you talk about england as if it's one small town.
If Its as bad as you make out, why not move? I love where I live. Low crime, excellent education, pretty town with generally nice friendly people. Not everywhere is a dump.
Although I do quite fancy spending a few years in France or Spain - I just like their less beurocratic lifestyles.
If Its as bad as you make out, why not move? I love where I live. Low crime, excellent education, pretty town with generally nice friendly people. Not everywhere is a dump.
Although I do quite fancy spending a few years in France or Spain - I just like their less beurocratic lifestyles.
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This.
What also really annoys me is the way some people are almost too afraid (is that right word?) of criticizing the country and the problems within.
Patriotism is fine but sometimes the stupidity that comes with it is just annoying.
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OT: Is this the same France that's just over the Channel or a different one that isn't a socialist bureaucracy?
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That's very true, but being English I don't think you've get away with it like the locals do
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Honestly, stop feeling sorry for yourself and get over it.
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What the hell are you on about, rofl.
I started a thread to talk about the way England has changed in the last 10-20 years, but patriotism got in the way and has seemingly blinded people from this reality. Pretty standard psychological reaction to a negative aspect, to concentrate on what still makes it good "well you can go live elsewhere" "what do you do?" etc etc, rather than talking about the problems we face as a country. It was directed in a personal manner because I allowed it to.
The misconception that you and others have in this thread is that it's anything to do with me. I approached the thread in a way which gave you and others potential to misdirect the core problem to personal ones, which as I admitted is my own fault. I wouldn't try and figure this out, as you seemingly confused self sorrow with something that couldn't be further from the truth. Shame.
Spain is beurocrat central 
I enjoy it too, and would hate to live in a laid-back kind of place, like the countryside for example.
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A coherent post about what you wanted to discuss, that' all I was asking for and you've delivered. As you say, your first post came across as if you were feeling sorry for yourself, you didn't really expand upon it and you dismissed other peoples comments in a single line. All that is OT though.
You have your feelings about the UK and how it has changed in the last 10-20 years and I don't really think it has, or at least it's not changing for the worse everywhere or in every aspect.
I grew up in Newcastle and 24 years ago with the miners strike and the decline of industry in the UK it was a crap hole, it was poor and deeply unattractive. These days it's one of the most vibrant cities in the UK, it's clean, it's regenerated and it's got jobs. Even the south of the river looks alright.
I must be lucky because I've never (touch wood) been the victim of crime, my other half has been burgled once and we've lived all other the North East and all over London. Half the statistics we get say crime is falling and the others say it's rising, my personal experience is that it's about the same. The types of crime fluctuate (20 years ago it was ram-raiding that filled the headlines, but you just never see it these days) but I generally feel that levels stay pretty constant.
The one thing I would say has changed in the UK is the breakdown in communities, something that is a hangover, I feel, from the changes Thatcherism brought to the social fabric of the UK. People don't know their neighbours any more and only probably socialise with them for a quick drink at Xmas, if that. However, these days people have more mobility; I don't think I have single friend living within 20 miles of my house, but 50% of my friends still live within an hour by car. We are richer and journeys like that are easy and relatively cheap, so if I can easily see my mates where ever I live why bother make friends in the area. people also move house more, the economic house ladder; don't like an area then just move, it's much easier then trying to improve it.
I've lived abroad and loved it and I travel extensively throughout Europe, SE Asia, Africa and Central / South America. I would love to live in Scandinavia for a while, probably Africa and perhaps SE Asia as I think that they all have great things to offer, but I don't think any of them are 'better' then the UK, just different with their own pro's and con's.
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