dm, calling someone a moron isn't the right aproach.
The 'handball' wasn't a penalty. The player was looking in the other direction. It should be deliberate for it to the a penalty.
It was a penalty, and I can tell, because it was given as a penalty, had that not been given then we'd have won by the next penalty we got. Oh wait, that ref that was the only reason we won, didn't give our second penalty, which was clear as day to anyone with half a brain. I wasn't calling him a moron for his opinion that the penalty somehow swayed the game, but your opinion we only won due to the ref, despite the 3rd goal we scored, and the 2nd penalty we weren't given. Lets not forget Ramsey should have had ANOTHER penalty also much earlier on. So we got given one penalty, that would have been given in 99/100 games, and we were denied one unbelieveable obvious one and the Ramsey one would be given in 80/100 games.
Also no, things don't have to be deliberate to be a penalty, or a foul, suggesting that is stupid. IF Shawcross didn't mean to snap Ramsey's leg in half, it wasn't a red? His arm was WAY up, it shouldn't have been, it blocked the ball and blocked a chance. It wasn't(or shouldn't) have been a yellow, or red, because of intent. LIke if it happened on the line, it shouldn't be a card for intent, but still a penalty as it would have prevented a goal. However if he moves his hand to the ball on purpose, you have the goal prevented which is a penalty, AND the INTENT which is a red card for deliberate handball.
Freekicks are given for not deliberate handball in most games throughout the season, in the box that means a penalty, get over it. Cards, yellow or red, are doled out for deliberate handballs, but its still a freekick or penalty.
...if anything i think that decision was the worst one of the night...didnt look anything like a yellow so now means Song is out for the next 2 games.
