English League Football ** spoilers ** [30th October - 2nd November 2010]

At the end of the day, I couldn't care less about the fact it was scored, as we were losing anyway.

But, I don't really want Gomes labelled as a buffoon again over it.

How many times do you see the linesman raise his flag for the ref to completely ignore it?
 
YOu can't just make the penalty completely irrelevant because it SUITS YOUR ARGUMENT.

You're saying, ooo Nani is the only one that was unsportsman like, because if you ignore one situation of Gomez/Kaboul being unsportsman like then Nani's the devil.

ITs ridiculous, as for whats a penalty, no, its NOT opinion. THere were TWO pullbacks, one on the arm, one he very clearly, very very very clearly tugged his shirt. That IS a penalty offence, the opinion is down to if the ref should have given it or not, the fact is the offence took place no matter if the ref gives it or not.

In shockingly the same way Nani grabbed the ball, but the ref didn't give it, please explain to me, penalty offence happened, theres video proof its completely undeniable, there is NO opinion on this, read the rules, the shirt was without question pulled, the player doesn't need to go down, or do a dance, or pass a test or do anything, that was an offence. It wasn't given, Kaboul, Gomez, everyone else except Nani played on.

Nani handled the ball, it was an offence, look in the rules, its clear as day, it wasn't given, everyone else but Gomez played on.

Now explain why you picked on Nani saying his unsportsman like specifically, the acts were identical, the offences without question, the rules are completely clear on whats a foul, the ref didn't give either, you can have an opinion on if he was right or wrong, on if Nani's a over dramatic diving ****, I don't think theres any opinion there either, I think all football fans alike think he is.

As for the linesman, everyones saying he waved the flag for the handball, or this, or that, or offside, simple fact is having not heard the conversation we have NO IDEA what the linesman was flagging for, he could be saying its a penalty, a handball, an offside or merely asking the ref to come and talk to him, who knows.

Shirts are pulled all the time. God Crouch would have 30 goals already( I wish) every time his shirt was pulled.

Nani - on the other hand knows exactly what he is doing? Maradona mk2
 
At the end of the day, I couldn't care less about the fact it was scored, as we were losing anyway.

But, I don't really want Gomes labelled as a buffoon again over it.

How many times do you see the linesman raise his flag for the ref to completely ignore it?

Exactly Gomes - played well
 
At the end of the day, I couldn't care less about the fact it was scored, as we were losing anyway.

But, I don't really want Gomes labelled as a buffoon again over it.

How many times do you see the linesman raise his flag for the ref to completely ignore it?

Its not absolutely ridiculous he assumed it would be a freekick, but as someone said, and I was going to put in my first post, one of the VERY first things they will teach you is play to the whistle, if he assumes its a freekick they he's not going to get in trouble for holding the ball a bit longer, he can ask the ref if its a freekick, when Nani asked the ref he waved play on.

Didn't hear the whistle, ask, no problem. But its not completely his fault, it was a cluster **** of a refereeing couple of minutes which he found himself on the half to blame, half the VERY unlucky side of, but it could 100% have been avoided if he just asked the ref.
 
Shirts are pulled all the time. God Crouch would have 30 goals already( I wish) every time his shirt was pulled.

Nani - on the other hand knows exactly what he is doing? Maradona mk2

Except for the fact that what Maradona did was against the laws of the game. What Nani did in scoring the goal (not the handball, but it's the ref's fault that this was not spotted) was not against the laws of the game, nor was it particularly immoral. The ref screwed up in not giving the handball. Gomes screwed up for not playing to the whistle. Simples.
 
Shirts are pulled all the time. God Crouch would have 30 goals already( I wish) every time his shirt was pulled.

Nani - on the other hand knows exactly what he is doing? Maradona mk2

He might know what he's doing, though again it actually looked like he had a couple chances to go down very easily but made an effort to stay up and get the shot at first. What he's doing is irrelevant, he could be dancing a jig on the penalty spot, Kaboul's the one who went and commited an offence on Nani.

As for Crouch, I see him foul more than he's fouled, almost every time he jumps for the ball he uses whoevers closest to him as a climbing frame, then still fluffs the header.

Because they allow all this ridiculous crap to go on at corners and have for the past 3-4 years, its spilling over to the rest of the game, where holding is more acceptable, but usually its in the two guys standing still waiting for the ball, trying to cop a feel type stuff thats let slide so often.

The one player has the ball running and another player tugs him back is rarely ignored.

You'd think them cracking down on this corner/freekick argy bargy crap would stop so much cheating in the rest of the game but ref's generally ignore it but occasionally have a word with a pair now and then, only to ignore them when they do it 3 seconds later.
 
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Nani did nothing wrong by putting the ball in the net after the ref waved play on. Yes he handballed it, but the ref didn't give it. Stop being so naive, every single footballer in Nani's position would have done the same thing (by putting the ball in the net I mean).
 
Yet these **** ups go on all the time need to be addressed.

The laughable thing was Platini, such a complete grade A ****.

Did everyone see his statement, "we have to help refs, in the old days it was just a ref and linesman, these days its unfair as the CAMERA'S SEE EVERYTHING, while referee's miss things being human. What we need is more referee's on the pitch???????

He actually said, the "Camera's see everything and don't make mistakes", that ref's can't see everything and make mistakes, so we need more........... ref's.

The sooner we get a low level of replay action going on the better, thing is because its so obvious and finite(in 99% of cases) the simple introduction will stop 99% of the cheating in the first place because people will know they will get caught.

Thats the only reason people cheat now, they think/know they'll get away with it often enough to be worthwhile, make it not worth it often enough and people will stop cheating.
 
He might know what he's doing, though again it actually looked like he had a couple chances to go down very easily but made an effort to stay up and get the shot at first. What he's doing is irrelevant, he could be dancing a jig on the penalty spot, Kaboul's the one who went and commited an offence on Nani.

As for Crouch, I see him foul more than he's fouled, almost every time he jumps for the ball he uses whoevers closest to him as a climbing frame, then still fluffs the header.

Because they allow all this ridiculous crap to go on at corners and have for the past 3-4 years, its spilling over to the rest of the game, where holding is more acceptable, but usually its in the two guys standing still waiting for the ball, trying to cope a feel type stuff thats let slide so often.

The one player has the ball running and another player tugs him back is rarely ignored.

You'd think them cracking down on this corner/freekick argy bargy crap would stop so much cheating in the rest of the game but ref's generally ignore it but occasionally have a word with a pair now and then, only to ignore them when they do it 3 seconds later.

After tonight - top flight referees and players dis-illusion me

Sure they will in the future too
 
Nani did nothing wrong by putting the ball in the net after the ref waved play on. Yes he handballed it, but the ref didn't give it. Stop being so naive, every single footballer in Nani's position would have done the same thing (by putting the ball in the net I mean).

"Yes he handballed it,"

So you condone cheating if nobody spots it
 
Where's Killswitch with the crying Spurs kid picture, that will fit in nicely here.

Nevermind, found it -

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Give your daddy a hug THFC :D
 
"Yes he handballed it,"

So you condone cheating if nobody spots it

I'm not sure that you can call that handball cheating. He went over and went to pick up the ball for the pen. Cheating implies he aimed to get a competitive advantage from doing it.
 
I'm not sure that you can call that handball cheating. He went over and went to pick up the ball for the pen. Cheating implies he aimed to get a competitive advantage from doing it.

Could've been an ingenious plan :D.

He predicted the lack of clarity from the referee and Gomes failing to guard the ball.
 
So glad the Glazers are in charge - If this is the way you play?

Ah you're just trolling now. There are plenty of bad refereeing decisions every week, Spurs would have been beaten anyway.

Get over it. Nobody was 'deliberately cheating'.
 
Ah you're just trolling now. There are plenty of bad refereeing decisions every week, Spurs would have been beaten anyway.

Get over it. Nobody was 'deliberately cheating'.

NANI,NANI,NANI,NANI,NANI

Thought Park was the Troll look alike
 
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