Enough is enough... Now gnome is comical.

Well, I have thrown in xubuntu 11.10

I moved off ubuntu but really only because of unity but if Im not going gnome then why not give it a shot here.

Im half ok with it.

Im messing about with the visuals / themes etc to make it look better and Im not happy with any of the themes really... They all seem to be a bland grey and on my Laptop, it really does look a bit john Major if you get my meaning. It just feels boring.

I have the MiNT / DEBIAN XFCE disks upstairs and I will go play over the next few days, plus I got dreamLinux and I rather like that for what I have played with it in a V.M but for some strange reason, when I try plopping that onto a Flash drive, the flashdrive wont play in the Lappy ? - Im out of DVDs so it will have to wait. Its debian based so Im ok with that.

Mentioning older Desktops, I was very much in love with BlackBox for a while... I do also like enlightenment in some ways, but I have never managed to find a stable setup... I think perhaps Sabayon is the best for stability but other than that...?
 
JonJ678 said:
Fluxbox or a terminal for me.

Agreed on windows 7 though- it does look very slick. It keeps crashing, but then ubuntu did that too last time I tried it.
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Don't think I've ever been able to make Windows 7 crash through normal useage.

Always used debian + fluxbox when I've used linux when I can, simple, functional and elegant.

Every new OS/update these days seems to try too hard.
 
TBH if you don't like KDE 4 or Gnome 3 why not just remove it and install a previous version. That is the good thing about Linux is you can do just that. I wholly agree with you about gnome but kde 4.5 is pretty good when you can configure it to be like kde 3 lol.

Since tablets have become mainstream Microsoft and developers for gnome want the display to be more like a tablet display for some unknown reason, Big icons and nifty menu. I'm not a ubuntu person i have only seen screenshot of unity but yes it looks horrible i don't blame you for not donating. But im sure by th time of window's 9 they will have reverted back to windows 7 look.

Is it just me or has Microsoft started to push more OS's more often. before it used to be 2 - 4 year cycle seems to be quicker now, maybe just me tho lol
 
pr0xibus said:
TBH if you don't like KDE 4 or Gnome 3 why not just remove it and install a previous version. That is the good thing about Linux is you can do just that. I wholly agree with you about gnome but kde 4.5 is pretty good when you can configure it to be like kde 3 lol.
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KDE4
Ok, maybe I am being too harsh on KDE4. Its mostly the widgets that I despise, the desktop icons not on the desktop but inside a window called desktop... Little things like that get on my pip, and WTF is that thing with moving, rotating, and resizing... Well, everything ?

pr0xibus said:
Is it just me or has Microsoft started to push more OS's more often. before it used to be 2 - 4 year cycle seems to be quicker now, maybe just me tho lol
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Its you!

Microsoft has always had the life cycle of its O/S's to be 2-3 years, its just that we get to hear about them sooner thats all, but the release times are very much the sme now as they have always been.
 
Just to add... I have been using xubuntu on my laptop for a short while and its nice, I like it etc, but I have gone back to MiNT 11 for now.

I think that Mandriva 2010 is by far the bestt O/S on that leptop. Only Mandriva 2010 and Suse 11 seem to allow me to have full compiz eye candy etc all playing nicely on that, while others simply dont.

But in terms of ease of use, I feel that I was happiest with MiNT / Gnome 2 and so, I have gone there.
 
FatRakoon said:
KDE4
Ok, maybe I am being too harsh on KDE4. Its mostly the widgets that I despise, the desktop icons not on the desktop but inside a window called desktop... Little things like that get on my pip, and WTF is that thing with moving, rotating, and resizing... Well, everything ?



Its you!

Microsoft has always had the life cycle of its O/S's to be 2-3 years, its just that we get to hear about them sooner thats all, but the release times are very much the sme now as they have always been.
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You are absolutely right about the niggles of kde4 they are the things i hate also, with me tho the widgets arent their and the desktop windows isnt their any-more. The resizing of well everything is also another hate but very tolerable lol.

You are right after looking up it is me, just seems quicker for some reason but as you state we hear about it a lot sooner.


Have you given slackware a try yet? im running it on an old dell inspiron 1501 and i have all the effects, this is even from the open source driver as ati doesnt support mine anymore.
 
pr0xibus said:
Have you given slackware a try yet? im running it on an old dell inspiron 1501 and i have all the effects, this is even from the open source driver as ati doesnt support mine anymore.
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Not gone Slackware for some time.

However, my main OS for some time has been Sabayon.

I kind of started to lose fith with 6 but 8 is awful.

My Linux PC is currently twiddling its thumbs with a basic Debian setup and I quite like it. I think its staying there.

The Laptop is back on Mint 11 and I am just not going to upgrade it - its also fine as it is.
 
I was on xubuntu but i hated it, Never made windows 7 crash without intention or stupidity. Windows 8 on the otherhand can go suck it. Crashed 3 times when installing. Stuff that
 
GrimsbyLAD said:
I was on xubuntu but i hated it, Never made windows 7 crash without intention or stupidity. Windows 8 on the otherhand can go suck it. Crashed 3 times when installing. Stuff that
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Harsh to compare a pre-release to a stable version. If you're posting in Linux/Open Source, you know the difference.

I agree about Win7 being rock solid - mine only crashes because I've got a stick of dodgy memory in it. I've never thought Gnome/KDE were slick enough compared to the commercial OS's - they've tried to fix that but gone too gimmicky IMO.

The only OS that gets it right for me is iOS, although Win7 is usable probably due to familiarity. I've not tried Win8 yet, so I can't comment, but I don't think I'm going to like it based on screenshots.
 
a lot of general o/s anger in here. I think that the rise of smart phones with their fast slick access and layouts have somewhat tarnished the traditional desktop gui.

it must be so as win 8 is trying to be all tablet / phone like and unity is a step towards that look too
 
phill1978 said:
a lot of general o/s anger in here. I think that the rise of smart phones with their fast slick access and layouts have somewhat tarnished the traditional desktop gui.

it must be so as win 8 is trying to be all tablet / phone like and unity is a step towards that look too
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It's more that people were happy with their desktops, and are unhappy that every popular desktop has been taking strides away from the norm because of developer envy for teh shiny!

Whether or not they're right about the changes in the long run, the distros need to stop pushing de's which aren't ready to the masses, and especially so, they need to stop pulling the carpet from underneath, like with the many people who liked gnome2, kde3.5, etc.

Luckily in the open source world people have choice, and I for one grabbed me some xfce and have no need to look back. :)
 
aln said:
Luckily in the open source world people have choice, and I for one grabbed me some xfce and have no need to look back. :)
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I've been very happy with XFCE too, if I had to level any criticism at it, it would be the way it chooses to place the windows on the screen, i.e. it's idea of smart placement is either centering the window or placing it under the mouse cursor, rather than say allowing for 'smarter' placement like Gnome does and arranging your windows in a more ...logical fashion. I am using Xubuntu at the moment, and on the whole, I'm happy with it.

I tried the latest Linux Mint Debian edition the other day, both the XFCE and the Cinnamon/Mate variant and the Cinnamon/Mate one was terrific, very, very fast and slick, I liked it more than the XFCE spin. Cinnamon is coming along quite nicely now I think, it's one to watch if you want something that offers a bit more than LXDE and XFCE but isn't going for the Fisher Price effect like Gnome 3 and Unity and isn't everything and the kitchen sink like KDE 4.

The only reason I'm not sticking with Mint Debian Edition is because for some reason I can not fathom and I have spent a few hours on this, is my Intel Cougar Point HDMI sound wont work, and the machine it's on is my media machine so it needs the HDMI sound output. It 'should' be working according to ALSA and Pulse, I even tried OSS4, that proved to be a mistake though as it doesn't actually support Cougar Point, apparently some chap managed to get it to do so, but I couldn't make head nor tails of what he actually did. Fact is, by all rights, that I can see, it 'should' be working fine, but it isn't. Xubuntu works just fine though.
 
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