Equal rights, equal... hitting?

As we can all see...

There are many people, who stand on many sides of this particular fence, some sit on it so to speak, and clearly others seem to deny the fence is even there.

I think that what we can all agree on, is that men ( Generally ) are stronger than Women ( Generally ), and that for a man to hit a woman, can only be justified in some curcumstances.

What I see is that after 7 pages of posts, that we still dont have a clue as to where the line in the sand is, and everyone is simply pointing out their own ideas on when it is or is not acceptable for a man to hit a woman.

I think that the law stands back a lot on this one, and fails to protect those who need protecting ( Male or Female ) and often simply turns away... Especially in the case of a Husband v Wife scenarion, where the police will 9 out of 10 times, simply not bother at all, stating that its a domestic, and will only actually come to the aid of anyone if there is a life threatening situation.

Lets go back to the basics...

Should a man hit a woman?

Should a fit and heathy average male, hit a woman, who is clearly smaller and weaker than he?

Should a 6 stone weakling man, hit a 15 stone polish shot-putting woman?

The answers to those are quite clearly NO and YES as far as I am concerned, its not like *** 6stone guy can actually hurt the shot-putter is it? Or, is it?

Similarly, if an average sized woman, started to lay into an average sized man, then, has that man *** rights to hit her? - Well, yes. If you are being attacked, then you do have the rights to protect yourself, however, if that woman was clearly a fraction of the size of the man, then for that man to hit her, would be unacceptable purely on the size issue. He can, if the need arrise, slap her in a kind of short-sharp-shock to calm her down perhaps, but to actualyl punch in a manner as to hurt her, then thats wrong.

Its a very fine line I feel.

I will though put one thing forward, and that is, that if I ever found out that my wife was seeing anyone behind my back, I would never hit her.

Id hack her head off with a shovel, but Id still never hit her.
 
BUT that sounds like chavs to be honest. or just people without morals in the first place..

what does being a "chav" have to do with it? she was still a woman. you asked if there was ANY situation where it's ok to hit a woman and here is a perfect example and you're somehow trying to dismiss it because you think they're chavs.
 
BUT that sounds like chavs to be honest. or just people without morals in the first place..
It is the traditional view that you are promoting. Look back through history. It isn't anything new. Those people were just acting in accordance with the idea that a man should never hit a woman.
 
[..] its not like *** 6stone guy can actually hurt the shot-putter is it? Or, is it?

Similarly, if an average sized woman, started to lay into an average sized man, then, has that man *** rights to hit her? - Well, yes. If you are being attacked, then you do have the rights to protect yourself, however, if that woman was clearly a fraction of the size of the man, then for that man to hit her, would be unacceptable purely on the size issue. He can, if the need arrise, slap her in a kind of short-sharp-shock to calm her down perhaps, but to actualyl punch in a manner as to hurt her, then thats wrong.
A six stone man would probably be at death's door and unable to hit anyone, which makes it a bit of a moot point.

A far weaker person can of course hurt a far stronger person, even kill them. A 15st shot-putter will have a lot more strength than average, but they won't have much more armour. They will have more flesh to absorb impacts, but it isn't the overwhelmingly huge factor many people portray it as being, particularly since it isn't everywhere. For example, how much impact-absorbing material do you have on your face?

My point of view is that it's wrong to judge people on their sex except in the very small minority of cases where a person's sex is genuinely relevant (e.g. it's reasonable to specifically hire women only for a job miodelling bras). Assault is not one of those cases. So, to me, the issue should be one of reasonable force, completely ignoring the sexes of the people involved.
 
A six stone man would probably be at death's door and unable to hit anyone, which makes it a bit of a moot point.

Oh ha ha, yes, ok, if a man was 6 stone, then he would probably be anorexic or have some fatal disease or similar and therefore, he would have course be at deaths door, but this is NOT what I meant... It was more of a thin weakling guy against a massive woman kind of comparison.

So, to me, the issue should be one of reasonable force, completely ignoring the sexes of the people involved.

Equality!

Sure, in an ideal world, this would be the best thing, but this is far from an ideal world... This is the real world, so thats fallen over at the first hurdle too!

And the first people to cause that one to fall over are the women.
 
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