Poll: Erik ten Hag Sack Watch & Next Manchester United Manager? Sacked. Ruben Amorim appointed.
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Give us a bold prediction then!
I think that FA Cup final day was so dramatic (for different reasons) it could act as a fresh start. Equally it may not, and ETH will be gone before October when performances continue to be terrible.
There's surely a chance with 5 or 6 new players, who hopefully remain injury free, things can be turned around. I think the players are playing for him - which made the terrible performances even more bizarre.
I'm happy to give him another shot (like I have a choice), but I just think the performances were so bad, something is seriously wrong somewhere.
There's surely a chance with 5 or 6 new players, who hopefully remain injury free, things can be turned around. I think the players are playing for him - which made the terrible performances even more bizarre.
I'm happy to give him another shot (like I have a choice), but I just think the performances were so bad, something is seriously wrong somewhere.
That explains some of it, but it was spectacularly bad.
Anyway, I think we've got to see how it goes... it will be good to get a few new players in and see what happens.
I expect there will be strict clauses in relation to performance, we know the club were on the verge of sacking him at least once, and actively looked to replace him.
Not really the ideal foundation going forward, and I can see ETH being a bit difficult in the negotiations. But, if as he says he's keen to manage the club, they should find a middle ground somewhere.
Not really the ideal foundation going forward, and I can see ETH being a bit difficult in the negotiations. But, if as he says he's keen to manage the club, they should find a middle ground somewhere.
The thing is, whatever your view, we can't do anything about it so just have to hope for the best. Last season was utterly horrendous but there have been some positive signs we can cling to, 2x trophies and ETH's previous work at Ajax, as well as his first season at Man Utd.
Just forget last season and let's hope INEOS can sign some suitable players, my main frustration is the Ashworth situation etc, it will be holding things back a fair bit.
But, make no mistake, he will be under serious pressure to get results immediately in the Premier League. Do I think he'll succeed? 50/50 at best... but I am hopeful all the same.
Just forget last season and let's hope INEOS can sign some suitable players, my main frustration is the Ashworth situation etc, it will be holding things back a fair bit.
But, make no mistake, he will be under serious pressure to get results immediately in the Premier League. Do I think he'll succeed? 50/50 at best... but I am hopeful all the same.
So...
We're a few games into the new season and I would say there's an improvement in the performances, but it's fairly minimal so far. I'm not too hung up on the Brighton game as they are a decent side and could beat anyone at home.
Despite him almost being sacked, the club have firmly backed ETH with the transfer business this summer, and the squad is significantly stronger now, especially with Ugarte joining too.
However, I can't shake the feeling that ETH leaving is just a matter of time, I think the performances will continue to be up and down, and we're into his 3rd season now.
I think he was damaged beyond repair last season... and there's still no clear idea of how he wants to play, it's the usual Solskjaer counter-attack football which I don't think is sustainable at the top clubs for any real length of time.
We're a few games into the new season and I would say there's an improvement in the performances, but it's fairly minimal so far. I'm not too hung up on the Brighton game as they are a decent side and could beat anyone at home.
Despite him almost being sacked, the club have firmly backed ETH with the transfer business this summer, and the squad is significantly stronger now, especially with Ugarte joining too.
However, I can't shake the feeling that ETH leaving is just a matter of time, I think the performances will continue to be up and down, and we're into his 3rd season now.
I think he was damaged beyond repair last season... and there's still no clear idea of how he wants to play, it's the usual Solskjaer counter-attack football which I don't think is sustainable at the top clubs for any real length of time.
Just because he wasn’t sacked doesn’t really change that much, his job is still very much at risk. It’s not a club thread.
We’d need some Chelsea fans for that to be worth it.
Sorry - I must have missed the new rule where managers can only be sacked at the end of the season. As far as I’m concerned nothing has really changed, we can’t just pretend last season didn’t happen, that FA Cup final has given a lot of people amnesia it seems.
I am behind the team - I’d like him to turn it around but I’m not delusional, it’s going to be very difficult. They’d more or less decided to sack him, he was a whisker away by all accounts, not exactly a ringing endorsement from those who know so much…
At this point, if he doesn't have the players to play the way he wants, then he clearly doesn't have much of a playing style in mind.
You aren't afforded the luxury of having 11 world class, league tested players in every position. That won't happen, he's got to develop them and the team. No sign of this in his tenure so far.
I have no real issue with some bad results on the way, but I expect to see much better performances than the utter garbage we had to endure last season.
I think INEOS have been ok, they've appointed what appear to be good people in the right positions. My initial worry is that they rightly decided to sack ETH, and then bottled it. They should have decided what to do before the FA Cup final, for example - if he wins, back him immediately the following day, if he loses, then sack him.
Since he's been here there's been one run of decent form, in the latter part of his first season, which lasted a couple of months. Aside from that things have been completely dire on the pitch.
Spending has increased significantly during ETH's tenure, yet performances have regressed and continue to do so.
I also don't like how ETH carries himself, he seems awkward and unclear in what he's saying - funny how that's translated onto the pitch.
The argument about sacking managers is not a reasonable one - most of the appointments since Fergie have been managers on the decline such as LvG/Jose. I think Solskjaer actually did well in light of his limited skillset. Even Moyes is a better manager than ETH and look how that went.
I think the hopes of him turning it around are just a fantasy at this point, clung to by fans who clearly haven't been watching properly for the past 2 years.
Since he's been here there's been one run of decent form, in the latter part of his first season, which lasted a couple of months. Aside from that things have been completely dire on the pitch.
Spending has increased significantly during ETH's tenure, yet performances have regressed and continue to do so.
I also don't like how ETH carries himself, he seems awkward and unclear in what he's saying - funny how that's translated onto the pitch.
The argument about sacking managers is not a reasonable one - most of the appointments since Fergie have been managers on the decline such as LvG/Jose. I think Solskjaer actually did well in light of his limited skillset. Even Moyes is a better manager than ETH and look how that went.
I think the hopes of him turning it around are just a fantasy at this point, clung to by fans who clearly haven't been watching properly for the past 2 years.
To some extent yes, but looking at the here and now, many of our signings since ETH has been manager are his ex players, some very expensive. Antony has been written off, a player ETH wanted and knows well, £85m.
There is definitely an issue with the players too, but that is for INEOS to resolve.
The number will probably shrink or stabilise if we actually end up with a competent manager. Do huge money signings ever really work out? Not very often.
In Europe: 1 win out of 9.
Premier League: 7 wins in the last 19.
I genuinely can't see him improving us any further. Any improvement is simply down to adding some better defenders, tactically he seems pretty hopeless.
Looking at our next 6 games or so, all of them are pretty tough.
Premier League: 7 wins in the last 19.
I genuinely can't see him improving us any further. Any improvement is simply down to adding some better defenders, tactically he seems pretty hopeless.
Looking at our next 6 games or so, all of them are pretty tough.
I doubt it - there has been a defensive improvement (although it hasn't really translated into results), but that's just simply due to the addition of De Ligt/Masraoui and players being back from injury, nothing really tactical.
The next 6 games will be critical, all of them are pretty tough. If we seem to have made some big strides in that time, great, but I think we all know that's unlikely...