How's that work?
EV Car tax question.
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Because you aren't having to build a new car to replace it. Emissions from the car itself are the same but the overall footprint becomes tiny.
Something the government just choose to ignore because everyone running old cars forever is bad for business.
Something the government just choose to ignore because everyone running old cars forever is bad for business.
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It's the "...than an EV ever will." part of the statement that makes no sense.
I assume it is coming from a mindset that all EVs will be dead after 8 years because the batteries are kaput vs ICE cars that all go on for 20+ years but it's pretty obvious now that this isn't the case.
Well we don't really know yet as they haven't been around long enough in large numbers.
Older EVs certainly have dead batteries, loads of the original Teslas died and you cant get batteries for them anymore. I doubt you'll still be on the same batteries after 20 years, let alone 30-40+ years like some cars still running their original engines.
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I doubt many of the new ICE cars being sold today will still be on the road in 20 years time either but that part of the equation often gets overlooked.
Useful life of the car is the key. Average age of a car in the UK is 8 and a half years old. A figure partially skewed by people like me with a 27 year old car in the garage that goes out a few times a year. Average age of a scrapped car is 16 years old, average mileage 125k. Obviously these will be skewed by write offs but this is the data we have to go on. So really, when considering lifetime emissions for the "average" car looking at 125k or 16 years old (whatever comes first) is probably a decent metric.
Plenty on here prove that to be wrong.
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Yeah, apologies, I actually forgot what topic I was replying to.
If a mod wants to remove my replies above that's cool.
It's not just luxury cars that use the road network , every vehicle should pay tax on a scale that fits the impact on that system. If you want to go for the luxury end of the market use VAT.
Does VED directly relate to roads though? I thought it was just another generic income stream for the general coffers like income tax?
Yes in principle but as I've said there are other vehicles that use the road network, EV's can cause just as much wear as an ICE vehicle
It is I think but indirectly funds the roads
Lol. Wat?
I get that you are trying to make a point but that site was an awful way of doing it. It's like a random number generator and simply opens the flood gates for.... Oh, https://vehiclescore.co.uk/vehicles/renault+zoe
So actual road use isn't a meaningful metric. You might as well base VED on the drivers shoe size* for all the relevance it has on our crumbling road network.
*If we do go this route I'm squeezing into a 10.5
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I'll be alright then I'm only a 71/2I get that you are trying to make a point but that site was an awful way of doing it. It's like a random number generator and simply opens the flood gates for.... Oh, https://vehiclescore.co.uk/vehicles/renault+zoe
So actual road use isn't a meaningful metric. You might as well base VED on the drivers shoe size* for all the relevance it has on our crumbling road network.
*If we do go this route I'm squeezing into a 10.5
That's more than I expected, and not bad for an early EV.
Just showing the point that ICE cars aren't immortal.
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That isn't how tax work. Cancer patients don't pay more tax because they burden the NHS more. We all get shared benefit and people contribute what they can afford.
Doesn't tax work that way? Basic rate Tax and Higher rate Tax sound familiar?
The NHS is not a form of tax, well. not yet
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well this thread took a turn away from OT. anyway regarding the original post this morning i taxed my car despite it not being due till may. it all seemed to go through ok.
it isn't showing on the car tax website yet but hopefully that is just lag and my tax should now be due 28 Feb next year. I will post back to confirm once the tax checker updates then imo every EV owner should do it this month (there may be a mad rush this time next year OR government may change how it works and stop people doing it).
regarding the luxury car tax. at some point it is going to have to be added to EVs but I do think it's going on a bit soon. - or more accurately it should probably have a higher threshold at least for another year or so.
our i3 was over 40k new. (we didn't pay anything like that for it 2nd hand) . don't get me wrong it's a great little car but it's NOT a luxury car .
maybe it will time itself about right, there are a bunch of cheaper EVs about to come on stream so my hope is once the luxury car tax comes in for EVs we will see cars like the born have long range models come in under the lux tax bracket.
imo having a car specced for long range does NOT.make it a luxury car....
it isn't showing on the car tax website yet but hopefully that is just lag and my tax should now be due 28 Feb next year. I will post back to confirm once the tax checker updates then imo every EV owner should do it this month (there may be a mad rush this time next year OR government may change how it works and stop people doing it).
regarding the luxury car tax. at some point it is going to have to be added to EVs but I do think it's going on a bit soon. - or more accurately it should probably have a higher threshold at least for another year or so.
our i3 was over 40k new. (we didn't pay anything like that for it 2nd hand) . don't get me wrong it's a great little car but it's NOT a luxury car .
maybe it will time itself about right, there are a bunch of cheaper EVs about to come on stream so my hope is once the luxury car tax comes in for EVs we will see cars like the born have long range models come in under the lux tax bracket.
imo having a car specced for long range does NOT.make it a luxury car....
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