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which is kind what "I am not sure I get your point " means!
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jaguar ipace - comfortable, nice to drive, decent amount of room and good performance. (also I think they look fantastic inside and out (I like that they look like a car inside - not a fan of the minimalist bench with tablet glued to it looks of some cars cockpit) ). 3-4 year old top spec lowish miles can be gotten for £25k which is a lot of car for the cash
however slow charging compared to other cars, not very efficient and expensive to maintain of anything goes wrong with them.
BMW i3. fun little car to drive it's like a go kart/milk float on steroids and a great 2nd car. decent amount of room inside for 4 people (only 4 seats) but
tiny boot, expensive to buy for what it is and not much range (ours is the middle sized battery with around 90 mile winter range) ours has the range extender but I would not recommend that unless you absolutely need it, adds a lot more things to go wrong with it , adds weight which lowers the range and pushes the price up (you could probably get a newer car with larger battery for same price)
I would say the i3 is a bit of a buy with your heart not your head car. Buy because you like them but imo there are better vehicles to get you from A to B for the money. their construction was very advanced for what they are.
however slow charging compared to other cars, not very efficient and expensive to maintain of anything goes wrong with them.
BMW i3. fun little car to drive it's like a go kart/milk float on steroids and a great 2nd car. decent amount of room inside for 4 people (only 4 seats) but
tiny boot, expensive to buy for what it is and not much range (ours is the middle sized battery with around 90 mile winter range) ours has the range extender but I would not recommend that unless you absolutely need it, adds a lot more things to go wrong with it , adds weight which lowers the range and pushes the price up (you could probably get a newer car with larger battery for same price)
I would say the i3 is a bit of a buy with your heart not your head car. Buy because you like them but imo there are better vehicles to get you from A to B for the money. their construction was very advanced for what they are.
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When he goes dogging he’s only there for 3 minutes was the joke.
No clear winner but for me it probably comes down to price and pricing seems to vary wildly from day to day depending on what the lease companies want to shift that day.
I would have the Kia EV6 GT line or the Gt line S (if available) at the top of the list. It’s the best all rounder at its price point. RWD is fine, no need for AWD unless you really want it.
Avoid: Toyota - not great IMO.
Consider: Audi Q4/VW ID4 & ID5, Ford Explorer & Capri, Skoda Enyak are all the same underneath with a different set of clothes on top. None are really best in class at anything but they are ‘fine’ if the price is right and you are happy with the way they look. Just expect to get some stick from ‘car enthusiasts’ if you buy the Capri….
BMW i4 and particularly the i5 are objectively the nicest places to sit but you’ll probably be paying for it. Make sure these are the long range versions. I may be wrong but recall the smaller battery on the i4 doesn’t give the best range.
Just bare in mind the monthly is likely to rise over the next 4 years, potentially by a material amount:
All will be subject to £195 VED + many the £410 expensive car supplement from April.
BIK rates are due to rise 1% per year and are planned to be 9% by 29/30. That’s a material number on a car with a £50k list price.
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I’d get the Capri just to wind up the fan boys
But yeah as previous posts the facelift EV6 is spot on as a EV and as a car. Next after that would be the Elroq in sport line trim. The Enyaq in non sport line trim just looks a bit too ordinary imo.
But yeah as previous posts the facelift EV6 is spot on as a EV and as a car. Next after that would be the Elroq in sport line trim. The Enyaq in non sport line trim just looks a bit too ordinary imo.
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The guys who have switched to Tomato, have you had any problems with billing or smart meters and any problems with your EV chargers? I am very very tempted to switch to them as it would bee a significant saving for me. I would have done it before but I'm not convinced that they will be around long term.
don't like the look of the EV6 - but the explorer tablet and pan roof would make that the pick of MEB platforms.
further on topic of going commando charging to save money -
hadn't appreciated chargers like ohme pro need a good 4g signal to work, a vw/stellantis car that would need that too, to communicate pre-heat/charging instructions to it,
so if you have poor mobile reception you'd be fool with such a combo.
further on topic of going commando charging to save money -
hadn't appreciated chargers like ohme pro need a good 4g signal to work, a vw/stellantis car that would need that too, to communicate pre-heat/charging instructions to it,
so if you have poor mobile reception you'd be fool with such a combo.
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Oh no! What will we do?!
No problems here but it's early days so I haven't had a bill yet. Smart meter data shows on myWatts with about a 90 minute delay. That is verses Octopus where I wouldn't see data until the following day.
On switch over day I got 9 emails over the course of 50 minutes asking for my initial meter reading. myWatts doesn't view properly on mobile so it was only after opening it on my laptop I actually got the screen to enter the initial reading.
That minor point aside it was a seamless swap.
As for chargers, I can't help you there as I just have the schedule set on the car to start at 1am every morning.
Had my first bill a few days ago. 70 quid and spot on.
They obviously require a SMET2 smart meter.
Can track use and spend on the desktop web browser mywatts and the bill also itemises it in detail.
Standing charge is a lot less than octopus.
So far so good. If they go bump hey ho there's no risk to the consumer, would try eon drive next.
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This is my £90 DIY setup.Got a mate who's getting a cheap leaf as a second car.
In the same budget frame of mind he's asked instead of getting a 700 quid EV charger plus install, why not get a leccy to do the following:
40A RCD Breaker, 6mm Cable going to one of these
Industrial Socket IP67
Choose this industrial socket when you need to provide power to an appliance in an outdoor area that's exposed to the weather or lots of dust. You can use it to connect to the mains supply when you're operating items needing higher voltage and currents like caravans, motorhomes and electrical...www.toolstation.com
Then get a £150 32A portable charger from Amazon?
In the gray box is the granny charger that came with the car. Slow charge but I only charge once a week so it works out fine.
Been using it for 3 months.
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This is my £90 DIY setup.
In the gray box is the granny charger that came with the car. Slow charge but I only charge once a week so it works out fine.
Been using it for 3 months.
When I was Granny charging I'd got the same single socket outside in a box.
With the proper charger I have bought the same holder so my cable can be the other side of the gate.
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I’ve spent a few posts hammering the build quality and talking about the ongoing problems. I do recognise I probably have a lemon, and in the event I do, here are some of the things I genuinely do like about it (which are unique to the car, not electric)
- How well optioned it is as standard. I don’t feel I need anything else on it at all.
- How good the stock stereo is. It’s the best stock one I’ve heard by a long shot, and I don’t think you need the HK one.
- Lights are excellent. Not because they’re adaptive, but they’re very, very bright. The adaptive part reacts very quickly too.
- Gear selector on the steering column. This works super well, even if it’s backwards compared to most autos.
- Range is excellent. I’m getting around 270 miles from a full charge in this weather.
- It’s really spacious inside, and exceptionally comfortable.
- It’s better built than most electric cars I’ve been in, especially at the lease price (I.e. ignoring the MSRP)
- It handles very well, much better than you would expect.
- It feels pretty sporty and I never feel as though I’m missing out on anything (that other electric cars can provide)
Biggest areas for improvement:
Brake pedal is very mushy. I had an ID 4 recently and it was significantly better calibrated. It just felt like a normal brake pedal, but the ID 7 has a lot of travel before you get any resistance.
Software. For obvious reasons
- How well optioned it is as standard. I don’t feel I need anything else on it at all.
- How good the stock stereo is. It’s the best stock one I’ve heard by a long shot, and I don’t think you need the HK one.
- Lights are excellent. Not because they’re adaptive, but they’re very, very bright. The adaptive part reacts very quickly too.
- Gear selector on the steering column. This works super well, even if it’s backwards compared to most autos.
- Range is excellent. I’m getting around 270 miles from a full charge in this weather.
- It’s really spacious inside, and exceptionally comfortable.
- It’s better built than most electric cars I’ve been in, especially at the lease price (I.e. ignoring the MSRP)
- It handles very well, much better than you would expect.
- It feels pretty sporty and I never feel as though I’m missing out on anything (that other electric cars can provide)
Biggest areas for improvement:
Brake pedal is very mushy. I had an ID 4 recently and it was significantly better calibrated. It just felt like a normal brake pedal, but the ID 7 has a lot of travel before you get any resistance.
Software. For obvious reasons
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Is the ID3 any good?
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If you can forgive some of the stupid design choices inside (just like most cars now) and the less-than-great software, used models can be had for pretty cheap now.
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Wouldn’t be against something electric and a bit cheaper than mine.
Mini - wife already has one
Taycan - some tempting prices on cars near me
etron GT - have always quite liked this one, but pricier
ID3 - cheaper seemingly than lots of alternatives, doesn’t look to bad, bit slow
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Quite the variety of options there. What are you going to be using it for predominantly?
We've been out trying loads BEVs for the past few days, thought we'd pick one up prior to the introduction of ECS, irks me paying that, missus really likes the Capri, I just can't because I'm one of those car enthusiasts
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I'm so tempted to move from Fuse Energy. Moved to Fuse because they were the only provider that would willingly attempt to install a smart meter - and of course it works perfectly (all other suppliers refused the install because 'computer says no - zero signal in your area'). Apparently they're going to be launching EV tariffs soon but can't see them beating Tomato in terms of price.