EV general discussion

CaptainRAVE said:
4000 miles a year max, commuting only. Tired of putting so much money into cars.
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In that case cheaper is definitely going to be better. Cupra Born is worth a look. Takes the ID3 and makes it better. 20k would get you a decent low mileage VZ2 model with enough kit on it. I'd sooner have one of those over an ID3.
 
I've never spent more than about £10k on a car.. So basically never, looking at the prices of EV's... Not to mention I don't have a private drive so I can't realistically charge at home either.
 
mattyfez said:
I've never spent more than about £10k on a car.. So basically never, looking at the prices of EV's... Not to mention I don't have a private drive so I can't realistically charge at home either.
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2021 Leafs with around 40K miles on them are sub 10K now - you'd need to have fairly specific usage though for the car to fit.
 
I'd like to think any EV has ridiculous 0-60 times due to the torque on tap. Whether it has the tyres, brakes and suspension to cope with it I guess is a different matter
 
mattyfez said:
I've never spent more than about £10k on a car.. So basically never, looking at the prices of EV's... Not to mention I don't have a private drive so I can't realistically charge at home either.
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I mean you've not mentioned what you drive now, it could be a Citroen C1 and you might only do 50 miles per week, or it could be an ancient Saab and you drive 500 miles per week. If it is the former type of car/mileage there are many cheap cars that would be a replacement, Zoe, Leaf (bit bigger), Corsa-e, Pug 208e. You've also already got yourself in to the mind set you have to have a drive, when that isn't the case if you are doing low mileage, or tie in your charging with a. n. other activity, or see if there's a ZapHome, CoCharge etc. nearby.
 
Whether it has the tyres, brakes, suspension and driver to cope with it I guess is a different matter
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disappointingly not - 7feb https://www.thetimes.com/uk/transpo...o-crash-but-less-likely-to-get-hurt-9svqdrcj8
Electric cars have more accidents than petrol or diesel vehicles, according to insurance data.

Owners of electric vehicles are 56 per cent more likely to make a claim on their policy than owners of petrol cars, figures from the insurance group Howden show.

Last year, one in every 12 people who owned an electric car made a claim, compared with about one in every 20 with a petrol vehicle.

The higher claim frequency is one of the reasons why the cost of cover is so much greater for electric cars. Howden reported that the average premium for an electric car is now £1,211 a year, having risen by 62 per cent during the past two years.
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CaptainRAVE said:
Is the ID3 any good?
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We really like ours. It's comfortable, spacious, practical, has a tonne of gadgets, rides decently, and is actually pretty fun to drive (compared to a family car of similar segment, obviously it's not a sports car). Stupid capacitive buttons, and bulky pillars are the main drawbacks.

I understand the refresh improved the interior a lot from the previous version though, if you're buying used.
 
The ID.3 launch was received really badly mostly due to dire buggy software that wasn’t fit for purpose. Those issues have been resolved for some time but may still come up if you are watching older reviews etc.

For me the issue with the ID.3 is that the Cupra Born exists. The only way you’d get me in the ID.3 is if it was materially cheaper (assuming similar age, condition etc).
 
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The Born is more sports tuned than the ID3, which means it drives better but also has a harsher ride.
 
jpaul said:
disappointingly not - 7feb https://www.thetimes.com/uk/transpo...o-crash-but-less-likely-to-get-hurt-9svqdrcj8
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I can't read link however is that because EVs are more inherently likely to crash or is it because mixed in with those stats are the bangers which are so cheap it isn't worth putting in an insurance claim ... with an old banger it is only more serious accidents that will get reported but the same accident in most EVs would likely warrant a claim

I have myself crashed twice (my parents car ;) ) and that stat was never recorded as it was not worth it. (I did claim when I crashed my car however)

I wonder if it was done with claims for cars over 15k in value of it would be closer (that would rule out most scrappers but include a much higher proportion of EVs)
 
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Electric cars have more accidents than petrol or diesel vehicles, according to insurance data.

Owners of electric vehicles are 56 per cent more likely to make a claim on their policy than owners of petrol cars, figures from the insurance group Howden show.

Last year, one in every 12 people who owned an electric car made a claim, compared with about one in every 20 with a petrol vehicle.
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[Pedantic mode] Do they have stats for diesel cars ? [/Pedantic mode]
 
Spoke to a dealer, they've offered a little lower than I wanted for our car, so I've asked for some services to be chucked in. Was late Saturday, so will discuss with them more on Monday.
They have offered to deliver, but I'm a bit dubious of not seeing it, though it only has 6k miles on it, so realistically cant be too bad.
Will probably commit to buy and drive up there, once I've confirmed a few more things with them.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
The ID.3 launch was received really badly mostly due to dire buggy software that wasn’t fit for purpose. Those issues have been resolved for some time but may still come up if you are watching older reviews etc.

For me the issue with the ID.3 is that the Cupra Born exists. The only way you’d get me in the ID.3 is if it was materially cheaper (assuming similar age, condition etc).
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Seem to be some decent incentives on the Cupra.
 
jpaul said:
look on web archive https://archive.is/SBQ0e
even then I'd like to know if their disproportionate ownership by fleet drivers plays.
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Holy poop you actually read utter trash like that? Tabloid media epic fail as usual.

The average electric vehicle costs £3,784 to repair after an accident, compared with £3,076 for a diesel and £3,371 for a petrol car. Howden said the higher repair costs were because EVs had more features on average while the batteries are “very expensive and prone to damage”. <-------:cry::cry::cry::cry: - clearly batteries cost on average £400 according to that data.
Shuker said: “If you bump the bumper in an EV, for example, it will have all sorts of cameras that might get damaged.” <---- :cry::cry::cry::cry:

I have to laugh at their comparisons as well.

Electric power vs petrol power​

0-60mph in broadly equivalent models:
• Ford Puma Gen-E (Electric), 8 seconds vs 10.2 seconds, Ford Puma 1.0 EcoBoost (Petrol)
• Mini Countryman SE ALL4 (Electric), 5.6 seconds vs 7 seconds, Mini Countryman Cooper S (Petrol)
• Porsche Taycan Turbo Weissach (Electric), 2.2 seconds vs 2.3 seconds, Porsche 911 Turbo (Electric)
• Hyundai IONIQ 5 N (Electric), 3.4 seconds vs 8.8 seconds, Hyundai Tucson (Petrol) <-------------:cry::cry::cry:
• Mercedes-Benz AMG EQS 53 (Electric), 3.4 seconds vs 4.5 seconds, Mercedes-Benz S-Class (Petrol) <------------- :cry: :cry: :cry:
• Audi e-tron GT S (Electric), 3.4 seconds vs 3.5 seconds, Audi RS7 Sportback (Petrol)
 
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