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What’s PTV heater?
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Oh I am so anal I should be illegal in several countries.
It’s very cyclical and quite tiresome when you have driven loads over several years and prob 50k miles. Then the guys who buy a second have car then talk about the benefits of an EV and how everyone should be buying but haven’t actually bought a new one cause they love the residuals of a second hand one (but they are still perfect things) that perplex me.If you were on the fence about EVs, the state of this thread recently would be enough to put you off
even when you get into a discussion about owning them people argue experiences and then get massive offended that anyone could possible disagree with them in the EV echo chamber. As witnessed here
I think you're blowing this out of proportion just a bit.
6kw preheating for 10 minutes = a whole 1 kwh, so 7p or ~3 miles of range. No, it's not free. Yes it is utterly insignificant.
Ok, at 30p (if it's drawing from the grid) then it's a bit more of a consideration, but still barely a blip in the overall running costs of a car; it's certainly a far cry from "negating all the Octopus Go savings"
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That’s a lot in mini electric with its 29kwh and ‘only 1kwh’ is enough to go 4 miles.
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I think you're blowing this out of proportion just a bit.
6kw preheating for 10 minutes = a whole 1 kwh, so 7p or ~3 miles of range. No, it's not free. Yes it is utterly insignificant.
Ok, at 30p (if it's drawing from the grid) then it's a bit more of a consideration, but still barely a blip in the overall running costs of a car; it's certainly a far cry from "negating all the Octopus Go savings"
Errm ha said eat into range not running cost. 1Kwh on a Nissan Leaf is a lot for example. Far from insignificant. See this is the prob all people just arguing their opinion as the thread is awash with Dunning Kruger exhibits.
Unless you plan on not heating the car when you're in it, then it doesn't make much odds. Most of that energy stays in the car.
Ah yes. That thermoflask with wheels
Probably said snug and smug is your projection.
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Depends whether I have it plugged in or not. If it’s plugged in it just pulls from the grid. Plenty of range to play with though if it isn’t plugged in.
Ah yes. That thermoflask with wheels
It will lose heat, sure, but it's still going to retain the majority of it.
Within a few mins of turning the heating off in my EV it’s cold. What’s your experience of having an EV in the winter and turning the heating off ?
If you were on the fence about EVs, the state of this thread recently would be enough to put you off
Most people on this thread can ask all sorts of technical questions or simply how they use vehicles. But a few constantly have a snide dig almost every time they post.
Certain subjects on forums and social media seem to attract this. However most people can learn to filter this out and just read the moderate posts. It's like filtering out extreme reviews on Amazon.
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"Cold" is subjective, you start feeling cold as soon as it stops blowing warm air on you and the temperature drops a couple of degrees, but that doesn't mean that the heat energy is gone. Return to a car after doing a 30 minute shop and it'll still be noticeably warmer than when it has cooled down overnight.
If a car didn't retain a substantial proportion of the heat put into it, it would be flat incapable of heating up at all.
Join uk electric owners. You will be a barrel of laughs on there too I imagine
Like watching a movie when you've only heard bad reviews, then it's better than you expect.
I've found the heating consumption very high, but on the flip side I've rarely been in a situation where I've needed to turn it off for range. It's either been at the start of ownership when I didn't know what I was doing, or where I trying to see how low I could go. Usually I'm quite conservative, and fill it around 30%. Because I park beside the charger so why not plug it in. Seems daft not to. It's just not been the problem I expected it to be.
Then again I'm not hammering down a motorway mid winter every other day. Maybe that would be different.
I've found the heating consumption very high, but on the flip side I've rarely been in a situation where I've needed to turn it off for range. It's either been at the start of ownership when I didn't know what I was doing, or where I trying to see how low I could go. Usually I'm quite conservative, and fill it around 30%. Because I park beside the charger so why not plug it in. Seems daft not to. It's just not been the problem I expected it to be.
Then again I'm not hammering down a motorway mid winter every other day. Maybe that would be different.
Yes got all that and for sure it’s going to keep some heat but it’s still cold !
we all know EVs use more energy in winter unless you saying they don’t now? And that’s not just from warming the cabin up. It’s maintaining it especially at 70mph with a few mm of glass the only thing keeping heat in. But hey physics.
What’s your EV that stays warm after parking (when there’s no air smashing into the glass)