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EV general discussion

So, we recently had a nice cottage in the lakes with EV Charger and dedicated parking etc (£50 supplement) which was ideal as public charging is a bit spread out in the lakes, and peak rates from Insta-volt are £0.92/KWh, knowing we could just charge overnight and relax in a place with sporadic charging was ideal..
Was this on Airbnb? We're going to the Lake District at the end of the month, but from briefly looking recently, there weren't many cottages on Airbnb that had EV charging when I used the filter. The few that did appear were a fair bit more pricey if I recall.
 
New price would need to be pretty fantastic when you can get a Extended Range 69kWh Ultra version for £25k with less than 10k miles on it. Not sure what the obsession is with throwing in servicing with a BEV either, just take it to Clevely or similar an keep warranty but pay a fraction of the price.
Also odd because the 'standard' service offering is 3 years - but you'd only actually have 1 service in that time...

Yeah - I'm not convinced on a new one, even with the 'added' benefits thrown in. Keen to see how the C40/EC40 drives on Thursday, a used 2024 of those for £30k with under 10k miles seems to be a really convincing option.
 
Was this on Airbnb? We're going to the Lake District at the end of the month, but from briefly looking recently, there weren't many cottages on Airbnb that had EV charging when I used the filter. The few that did appear were a fair bit more pricey if I recall.
It was Sykes, although I checked on AirBnB and the cottage isn't on there, they often appear on multiple agencies.

The ones with EV chargers tend to have off-road parking and are generally nicer places.. but I have paid far more for nice places without EV charging in the lakes, so I don't think the charger in and of itself is the reason they charge more, it's just a nice feature.

Ironically I had no issues with public charges in the Lakes, the Windermere Booths Instavolt site was fine, 10 chargers, all working, and the off peak £0.55/KWh rate after 8PM was fine, although poorly advertised, you had to use their app, if I used my Electroverse if would still have been ~80p odd..

We have an AirBnB booked next week in Tenby with EV Charging, I have fingers crossed and I think you have a lot more clout on AirBnB, bad reviews mean a lot and AirBnB have been good sorting issues out with hosts previously.

Sykes have been shocking, I guess they can legally hide behind their T&Cs but they way they just throw their hands up and say it's all down to the owner and nothing to do with them, despite:
1. I paid Sykes themselves, even the supplement.
2. All contracts/terms are with Sykes.
3. The cottage was managed by Sykes in that all contact details where Sykes within the cottages welcome pack, etc..

To say they are just some agency and so they aren't responsible was laughable.. the only way I had to get the charger working mid way through the stay was in a Sykes office in WIndermere, they phoned the owner in front of me but would not let me talk directly to the owner.. so clearly there is no relationship with the owner and the customer.

I've put in a formal complaint (of course).. my low review has not made it to the website (not surprised)..


To be honest, whilst I would prefer a cottage with an EV Charger, I have noticed they are really poorly handled throughout. most don't mention much in the listing, and I've never had a seamless experience.. hence I only plump for one if everything else (including price) is equal..
Experiences:
- The first place we rented with one, it wasn't working, but that wasn't their fault ,we happened to be the first people to use it, they faffed around for an hour and couldn't get the charger sync'd to the app, it looks like the unit wasn't commissioned correctly.. when they left, I downloaded the commissioning manual, opened it up to reset it, adopted it myself and put it in plug/charge mode.. so it worked perfectly after that.. A bit naughty, but there was no way it was going to work otherwise..
- I have seen some listing saying you will need to use a third party app, and when I queried one to get the rates, they came back with £1.50/KWh.. LOL..
- Many 'cottages' are just bungalows on large resorts that have shared charging and there are 3 or so chargers for 50-75 houses so are never available and often have very high fees, but vaguely advertised as having 'EV Charger'.. I tend to avoid those places anyway as they usually aren't any cheaper than some pretty nice private rentals..

Things need to improve, but its slowly getting there, more EV charger options are appearing on these places and I hope the experiences improve over time..
 
This is why the 3-pin and robust IP rated extension stay in the car, and the commando Ohme if I think I'll need it, bypass the idiots.
They now have the 'no EV charging unless via a provided charger' in their T&Cs for all the main places..

My granny charger is always in the car anyway, but that's a very last resort since it would be ironic for them to terminate your stay due to you breaching the contract when their equipment isn't working.. but you know how messy that would be.. so it's a risk you have to take..
 
We have an AirBnB booked next week in Tenby with EV Charging, I have fingers crossed and I think you have a lot more clout on AirBnB, bad reviews mean a lot and AirBnB have been good sorting issues out with hosts previously.
Fingers crossed you have a better experience! We usually stick with Airbnb, as they're generally reputable and reviews do help. You can also search the reviews of the Airbnb for keywords, such as 'charging'.
 
Also odd because the 'standard' service offering is 3 years - but you'd only actually have 1 service in that time...

Yeah - I'm not convinced on a new one, even with the 'added' benefits thrown in. Keen to see how the C40/EC40 drives on Thursday, a used 2024 of those for £30k with under 10k miles seems to be a really convincing option.
Volve seem to be throwing money at people (not sure if you are eligible but it's pretty broad all the same)

 
A used 2024 C40 or EC40 at that sort of price sounds much easier to justify than paying new-car money. The servicing and warranty details would probably decide whether the saving is as good as it first looks.
 
Talking to a bloke yesterday who had his MG4 the same time as me so I asked how he was getting on.
He said it was salary sacrifice and will get a petrol car when it's up.
He said he prefers a car that makes a noise and has got gears :)
I didn't know these people existed.
 
So, as anyone on this thread knows I take a keen interest in my EV’s efficiency and range, especially as I’m now on my third one.

Having tested the EQE on a commuting week and gotten all 5 shifts (300 miles) with 24 miles of range left, I was intrigued to see what a proper motorway journey would bring.

Last week I drove from Gloucester to Prestwick with a small detour to see my parents :D near Preston - total distance would be 366 miles. I was never making that in one go anyway but a bit of playing around with ABRP and ZapMap gave me a plan which involved me getting to Cairn Lodge Services on the A74, which hosted a rapid Westmorland charging setup (same company as Tebay and Gloucester services!)

Normally, I would do this sort of nonsense as if have family in the car, and always charge when stopping for pee/food/rest etc. When it’s just me, I have free reign to drive like a moron and be THAT sort of EV driver that everyone else THINKS you drive like… :D

To make it more interesting, I recently discovered the car has an inbuilt dashcam, and just requires a USB C drive in the correct format to record. One old SSD later and I have days worth of recording space as it’s only 1080p. Add in my GoPro to record the dash (poorly) and it’s made a fun video!


The final figures:

Got to my parent’s house at 160 miles on 4 mpkwh (which is the 250 whpm on the dash because Mercedes refuse to use the figures everyone else does) but an average speed of 34mph because it was a Friday afternoon on the M6…

Got to the charging station right on 320 miles with 2% battery left (I wasn’t scared, honest) and the increase in average speed to 44mph over the whole distance had dropped the efficiency to 275 whpm or 3.63 mpkwh.

I left it on the rapid charger for 30 minutes while I got snacks and did the last 40 miles cross country to the hotel at Prestwick.

Beast of a journey with all the traffic but ridiculously easy in the EQE with adaptive cruise, air suspension and nappa leather. Cruise was set to 70 and only rarely was that exceeded to get passed others.

Return journey this Sunday!
 
Talking to a bloke yesterday who had his MG4 the same time as me so I asked how he was getting on.
He said it was salary sacrifice and will get a petrol car when it's up.
He said he prefers a car that makes a noise and has got gears :)
I didn't know these people existed.
It would be boring if we all wanted the same thing from cars, there would be nothing but Nissan Leafs everywhere.

I'm seeing a few really staunch and vocal EV drivers making the switch at my work. One was a really early adopter but for now has bought his last full EV. As the range is improving of PHEV I see more people going that route and leave themselves with the flexibility for those rare longer trips. I do 95 miles per day so it's not really an option for me but so many of my colleagues are able to do the commute on battery.

I have an auto mini and I too wish I could've got that car with a manual. I'm not though bothered about engine noise but I might if I could afford a Lamborghini.
 
A used 2024 C40 or EC40 at that sort of price sounds much easier to justify than paying new-car money. The servicing and warranty details would probably decide whether the saving is as good as it first looks.
Yeah, I need to whack it all into a spreadsheet to take a look at the numbers but on paper the used C40 is making the most sense across the board.

I’ll see what it’s like to actually drive first this Thursday, don’t want to get it set in my head only to find I don’t enjoy driving it!
 
Talking to a bloke yesterday who had his MG4 the same time as me so I asked how he was getting on.
He said it was salary sacrifice and will get a petrol car when it's up.
He said he prefers a car that makes a noise and has got gears :)
I didn't know these people existed.


I would find it hard to pick an EV if I had one car. I’d lean towards ICE but it’d need to be a manual I think, otherwise you may as well just have an EV.


I’m fortunate enough to be able to have 2 cars, so the other is a convertible, manual transmission with 6 cylinders.
 
Just check the charger logs when they see consumption looking like someone's boiling the kettle for hours on end
Yeah, no. If the host can't be bothered to turn on the charger they aren't monitoring their electricity meter. Even if they did prove there was a car plugged in.
 
Yeah, no. If the host can't be bothered to turn on the charger they aren't monitoring their electricity meter. Even if they did prove there was a car plugged in.
Whether they do or not is irrelevant, just saying it's incredibly easy to do
 
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