EV general discussion

[cuke2u]

Can you buy the chargers without installation? Not like it's difficult to install.
Never mind looks like you can spotted the HyperVolt Home 3 Pro.

Should You Install My Own EV Charger? | Pro EV

Can you install your own EV charger? We explain UK legal and safety requirements, including Part P, BS 7671, DNO notification, and smart regulations, as well as the need for professional fitting.

proev.co.uk

 

[Diddums]

Ok so this was quite impressive. I signed up for a test drive with a Tesla tomorrow. I was asked to download the app and upload my driver's licence. Fair enough. So I downloaded the app and jumped through the hoops, "an account with this name already exists" - wtf?

Reset password. Log in again and there's my booking for tomorrow. So either it's done this manually or the salesman chap who phoned me yesterday did it. Either way quite impressed tbh.

 

[m4rmite]

99,199 bev sales in September - subject to final amendments.

But who the hell bought 14,000 diesels. Have they been living under a rock?

 

[kefkef]

Should You Install My Own EV Charger? | Pro EV

Can you install your own EV charger? We explain UK legal and safety requirements, including Part P, BS 7671, DNO notification, and smart regulations, as well as the need for professional fitting.

proev.co.uk

Not that i did it myself, but the original fitters of my charger wanted over £500 to take my charger off my old house and reinstall it at my new house. My brother in law was an NICEIC spark, he retired last year, it cost me 8 of the finest pints of lager for him to come out and take it out and refit it to my new house. Took him about 30 minutes to take off the old house and about 2hrs to install in the new house. I certainly wouldn't have attempted doing it and i'm pretty handy with electrics and DIY etc.

 

[bigmike20vt]

hopefully you paid him the 8 pints AFTER he did the work

 

[ChrisD.]

hopefully you paid him the 8 pints AFTER he did the work

If you can't do it drunk you can't do it!

 

[robj20]

Should You Install My Own EV Charger? | Pro EV

Can you install your own EV charger? We explain UK legal and safety requirements, including Part P, BS 7671, DNO notification, and smart regulations, as well as the need for professional fitting.

proev.co.uk

They just don't like you doing anything yourself do they.
I play with electronics as my job but because I don't have Part P I can't do that.
Not like it's difficult to run a 10mm run.

 

[Diddums]

All fun & games until your house burns down tho.

People don't realise quite how dangerous dodgy electrics can be.

Also if you claim on insurance for damaged caused by an electrical issue and don't have the required certs, good luck, you're going to need it.

 

[robj20]

All fun & games until your house burns down tho.

People don't realise quite how dangerous dodgy electrics can be.

Also if you claim on insurance for damaged caused by an electrical issue and don't have the required certs, good luck, you're going to need it.

I get why they have these regulations it's just super annoying that it puts a stop to those of us that are plenty competent enough.
Seems there's different regs specifically for EV chargers so I'll obviously play ball with that one, normally get away with other stuff as a modification to current circuits rather than a new circuit.
(Electronics I make go on aircraft by the way)

 

[b0rn2sk8]

For anyone who is on IOG variable still, new rates are rolling out now. Check your email!


Current prices until 15th October 2026

51.326p/day
28.827p day
6.571p night

New prices from 16th October 2026

51.672p/day
36.294p day (ooofff as the kids said 5 years ago)
6.6p night

Edit: IOG loyalty fix is:

Night rate (23:30 - 05:30)

6.6p​

Day rate (05:30 - 23:30)

35.89p​

Standing charge

51.67p​

£50 exit fee.

Looks like they want you to fix!

 

[Haggisman]

Yet another reason not to get another EV when my current one goes back in March - IOG prices have increased significantly so I've moved to a flat rate tariff with another supplier (after being with Octopus for almost 8 years).

The night rate is higher by 17p, but the day rate is lower by 10p and standing charge lower by 10p as well. Given my day usage is 2.5x my night, and I've moved as much stuff as I can to the night rate already, it works out about £150 less/year overall, plus I can charge the car whenever.

I realise diesel prices have also increased significantly (and may well continue to do so), but even with that taken into account the delta in price between a suitable EV vs ICE wipes out the majority of savings. Coupled with VED and eVED, and the ICE vehicle wins purely on financial terms.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Talk about myopic . Nothing like the fuel price increase!

 

[b0rn2sk8]

How is the standing charge 46p lower? How much were you paying before?

That said, even at 30p/kwh or whatever you are paying, EV is considerably cheaper than ICE.

 

[Haggisman]

Talk about myopic . Nothing like the fuel price increase!

The irony of using the word "myopic" and yet completely missing the last sentence

 

[Haggisman]

That said, even at 30p/kwh or whatever you are paying, EV is considerably cheaper than ICE.

Oops, my bad, the standing charge IS 46p, so 10p lower, edited

That said, even at 30p/kwh or whatever you are paying, EV is considerably cheaper than ICE.

True, but when the price delta is ~£20k, that pays for a lot of diesel!

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I’m really not sure I follow the ICE being cheaper.

In the used market ICE cars and EVs are basically the same price for equivalent cars. In the company car market EVs are cheaper by a country mile.

In the private new market - if you are buying outright, who cares because it’s not exactly a sound financial decision when you are spanking £lol on depreciation either way so just buy whatever you want.

 

[Haggisman]

I’m really not sure I follow the ICE being cheaper.

In the used market ICE cars and EVs are basically the same price for equivalent cars. In the company car market EVs are cheaper by a country mile.

In the private new market - who cares because it’s not exactly a sound financial decision when you are spanking £lol on depreciation either way so just buy whatever you want.

I would love for you to post a link for a 5 seater van which will do ~150+ miles on the motorway in winter for £8-10k, because so far I've failed to find one!

Granted an old ICE van is going to need repairs, but again, £20k pays for a lot of repairs.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I would love for you to post a link for a 5 seater van which will do ~150+ miles on the motorway in winter for £8-10k, because so far I've failed to find one!

Which is precisely why I said ‘equivalent cars’.

What you want to buy doesn’t exist in EV form yet because models which fit that criteria simply aren’t old enough.

That’s not ‘another reason to not get another EV’. You are simply looking to buy from a segment of the market that simply doesn’t exist in EV form… yet.

Something like a Kia PV5 will fit that criteria once it ages out to that segment of the used market.

 

[Shadowness]

I would love for you to post a link for a 5 seater van which will do ~150+ miles on the motorway in winter for £8-10k, because so far I've failed to find one!

Granted an old ICE van is going to need repairs, but again, £20k pays for a lot of repairs.

A van isn't strictly a car though is it, for this arguement. EV vans aren't anywhere near as old as EV cars, so yes you're not going to find the same cars/vans on the used market.

 

[Haggisman]

Which is precisely why I said ‘equivalent cars’.

What you want to buy doesn’t exist in EV form yet because models which fit that criteria simply aren’t old enough.

That’s not ‘another reason to not get another EV’. You are simply looking to buy from a segment of the market that simply doesn’t exist in EV form… yet.

A van isn't strictly a car though is it, for this arguement. EV vans aren't anywhere near as old as EV cars, so yes you're not going to find the same cars/vans on the used market.

But I'm posting about my specific situation, so whatever else does or doesn't exist isn't relevant for me. My next vehicle is highly likely to be a van, and therefore, the increases in EV running costs are making it less and less likely for that to be an EV.

Yes, a PV5 would be the ideal vehicle and was initially my first choice, but with an extra ~£1000/year in VED/eVED/fuel, coupled with the existing higher insurance and servicing costs (I can service a 10 year old van myself), it's becoming less attractive.