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Figured it out! Needed to turn on Smart Charging in the Zappi app.

Now instead of charging at 7kw straight from the grid, it's now using the surplus solar. So now charging at about 5kw :)

So no more free electricity for the grid! Sorry!
 
Quick one for you guys - to PPF or not?

Full PPF is £3.5k! Or a good ceramic coating is £650.

I'm a keen detailer myself and I know how to look after a car (my 140i had mint paint when I sold it earlier this year, owned for 6 years from new).

So is it overkill? Or I could get ceramic coating and front PPF for £1600. Worth it?

(this is for a brand new Model Y)

What are you trying to achieve with PPF?
 
On public charging cost - obviously if you have ionity/shell much closer to where you live, liitle point in being able to use supercharger as an owner
if you have to go out of your way to do so, similar to using convenient petrol stations.
leisue centre I use unfortunately has instavolt, and making an offer to use my adjacent neighbours charger would be cheaper.


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if the new polestar 2 gets the SPA3 chassis like the ex60 should give cell to body batteries (like jaguar 01, unlike bmw/merc) and decent saloon footwell
 
Just tagging on to this - as this will be our first lease, how bad are companies with stone chips and stuff? We'll be doing moon mileage so it WILL get chips, I just need to know if there's anything I can do to prevent facing a £lol bill when we hand the car back.

You’d be fine to fill them in with a touch in pen anyway, as long as they’re not mega chunks.
 
Kerbo charge have been around ages now, no idea why they need to do a pilot on a proven workable solution.
Yeah, i thought it might have been a "complete" package, so pay and it includes pre-approved planning, highways paperwork etc etc but the pilot website says you may still need planning permission but they will look at that favourably....... It's not cheap either....

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After completing the online application via the Kerbo Charge website, assuming it is confirmed that your site appears to meet the basic requirements, you will need to pay a non-refundable fee of £63.84 (including VAT) through Kerbo Charge to cover the cost of our undertaking an on-site survey of your property to further check its suitability.

If we consider your property location is suitable, Kerbo Charge will notify you that approval to proceed has been given. Should you then choose to go ahead you will then pay Kerbo Charge £1,250 (including VAT) for the supply and installation of the cable channel.

In addition, it will also be necessary for you, as homeowner, to enter into a licence with ourselves, in our role as Highway Authority under Section 178 of the Highways Act 1980, legally authorising the running of a charging cable across the footway. The licence fee of £349.68 is included within the charge of £1,250 (including VAT) and will be payable to ourselves.

Kerbo Charge charges you £4.99 a month from month 25 to cover all possible repair costs (including vandalism); this is necessary because the installations are in the public domain and funds must be put aside to pay for any repairs.
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As there are currently no ‘permitted development rights’ for on-street charging points, we recommend that you make a planning application. We encourage residents to make the switch to electric vehicles. Therefore, as the local planning authority, we will not regard it as expedient under current legislation to take enforcement action if an application is not made, and instead will issue a letter of comfort as long as all the points in the list below are met (should there be a future change in policy this may need to be reviewed):

  • The property has been granted a s178 licence by the highway authority to use an approved cross-footway charging solution for the safe carriage of an electric vehicle charging cable across the pavement under this pilot.
  • The electrical outlet must not be used until the approved cross-footway charging solution has been installed; the cross-footway solution must not be a temporary solution, such as cable covers or mats which can be placed on top of a cable.
  • The electrical outlet and its casing do not overhang the highway or pavement by more than 100mm (including any cable plug when plugged into the unit).
  • The criteria of the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (England) Order 2015 (as amended) are otherwise met; these are currently:
    • For an electrical outlet mounted on a wall for recharging electric vehicles (Schedule 2, Part 2, Class D), the outlet and its casing:
      • do not exceed 0.2 cubic metres
      • are not within a site designated as a scheduled monument
      • are not within the curtilage of a listed building
 
Kerbo Charge charges you £4.99 a month from month 25 to cover all possible repair costs (including vandalism); this is necessary because the installations are in the public domain and funds must be put aside to pay for any repairs.
So how is that meant to work?

You sell your house and have to tell the prospective buyer "Oh, and by the way, you need to pay a fiver a month for that gulley in the pavement ad infinitum or until Kerbo goes bust".

Unlike Deborah Meaden... I'm out :p
 
Thought people might be interested in some of the content of this customer survey from Ovo today, exploring attitudes to EV smart charging that gives a little insight into some of the things they're presumably considering at some level behind the scenes - a lot of questions about bidirectional charging, do you know what it is, would you use it, is your current car/charger compatible, what would make you upgrade to one that is compatible etc.

These are all 'how appealing would this be?' statements in context of smart charging...

  • Fixed monthly credit - We add £50 credit per month to your energy account if you plug in your EV enough that month.
  • Earn as you export - Earn up to 15p for every kWh your car sends back to the grid. The rate may move with wholesale energy market prices.
  • Charge your car for less (or for free) - Your home EV charging rate is reduced. The more you plug in, the less you pay. In some instances you may be charging your car for free.
  • Daily rewards - Bank energy credit everyday (up to £1 per day) you plug your car in for long enough. The more you plug in, the higher your reward.
  • Monthly subscription - Pay one fixed monthly fee and all your home EV charging is fully covered - no per-kWh billing at all.
  • Standing charge saver - 10p standing charge discount on both your electricity and gas. A standing charge is a daily fixed charge that goes towards the cost of supplying energy to your address.
  • Unit rate saver - 10% unit rate discount on your electricity.
  • Free public charging miles - 100 free public charging miles per month to use at any Charge Anywhere network point.
  • Power your home for less - Earn up to 100 hours free electricity every month by letting your vehicle power your home directly.
  • Environmental impact tracking – Seeing the positive impact your charging habits have on your carbon footprint and the grid.
 
Thought people might be interested in some of the content of this customer survey from Ovo today, exploring attitudes to EV smart charging that gives a little insight into some of the things they're presumably considering at some level behind the scenes - a lot of questions about bidirectional charging, do you know what it is, would you use it, is your current car/charger compatible, what would make you upgrade to one that is compatible etc.

These are all 'how appealing would this be?' statements in context of smart charging...

  • Fixed monthly credit - We add £50 credit per month to your energy account if you plug in your EV enough that month.
  • Earn as you export - Earn up to 15p for every kWh your car sends back to the grid. The rate may move with wholesale energy market prices.
  • Charge your car for less (or for free) - Your home EV charging rate is reduced. The more you plug in, the less you pay. In some instances you may be charging your car for free.
  • Daily rewards - Bank energy credit everyday (up to £1 per day) you plug your car in for long enough. The more you plug in, the higher your reward.
  • Monthly subscription - Pay one fixed monthly fee and all your home EV charging is fully covered - no per-kWh billing at all.
  • Standing charge saver - 10p standing charge discount on both your electricity and gas. A standing charge is a daily fixed charge that goes towards the cost of supplying energy to your address.
  • Unit rate saver - 10% unit rate discount on your electricity.
  • Free public charging miles - 100 free public charging miles per month to use at any Charge Anywhere network point.
  • Power your home for less - Earn up to 100 hours free electricity every month by letting your vehicle power your home directly.
  • Environmental impact tracking – Seeing the positive impact your charging habits have on your carbon footprint and the grid.
They need to learn more about survey design as there's no way you're getting good answers out of presenting that laundry list
 
I've been bi-directionally charging with an Indra V2H unit for the past two years. It's a great bit of kit. Gave back to the house 288kWh last month, 382kWh in Aug (so saved me £66 in Sept, £88 in Aug). Day rate is 30p, night rate is 7p (I think), so 23p equivalent saving per kWh.
 
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So how is that meant to work?

You sell your house and have to tell the prospective buyer "Oh, and by the way, you need to pay a fiver a month for that gulley in the pavement ad infinitum or until Kerbo goes bust".

Unlike Deborah Meaden... I'm out :p

The lock out the channel with a fitment that means it cannot be used or damaged.
 
Well first 24 hours with the Tesla Model Y and my thoughts: (my first EV too)

Positives:
- It's a genuinely great car, no regrets and love it (although I do miss my B58 :()
- Super quiet and comfortable. Cabin is nice and light (glass roof).
- Controls are really intuitive, especially coming from someone who always wanted buttons. It's pretty easy and quick to get to things you want, and once it's set up, you're not faffing too much anyway.
- Handles surprisingly well for such a car, remember thinking the same on the test drive back in Summer.
- Convenience. Small thing, but this morning it was heated to 20C, and when I jumped in, sat nav already set for work.
- Everything just seems to work. Like the 'stand by the boot and it will auto open'. I was thinking, yeh bet that only works when it wants to, but no, every single time.
- Ludicrously fast. Still not given it full beans for any prolonged stretch, but done a few blasts from 30-60 and it's just silly. Reminds me of being in the rollercoaster - I get the same 'feeling' in my stomach when I accelerate.
- The whole buying process was a breeze, and apart from a few quick chats in the app - I only spoke to two people when I picked it up, for a total of about 5 mins. Sign in, your car is in bay I25, come back to help set up the app - done. I was driving off after 20 mins of being in there (most of that time was setting everything up in the car)
- Really quiet inside, especially coming from a 140i.
- One pedal driving is amazing! Coming to a junction without even touching the brake, and then being stationary with nothing on the pedals was odd at first, but again, strangely intuitive.
- NO SILLY EU BONGS/CRAP! A big relief this one, but I hate modern cars and all their safety **** but thankfully this has none of that (well it might do but I'm not being bonged at every 5 minutes, and I don't need to turn anything off every time I drive)

Negatives:
- Not really a negative, but it's not a 'drivers' car at all. The steering feels like it's connected to nothing. But it still drives well.
- Rear visibility is not great, although you can turn on the rear camera at the touch of a button.
- Wasn't impressed with the audio initially (despite this having the best system in the range), but after fiddling with the EQ (lowered the treble A LOT) it's much much better.
- I have to worry about my other half, whose entire driving history consists of a Toyota Aygo and a Fiesta 1.0, making it back home in one piece (rather the car!)
- It sits far too high! Like it's on stilts! Not sure if lowering is a thing, but I think a nice 20mm drop would suit it, not sure if it would bugger up anything though.

Not really something for either camp, but took a bit of faffing to get things the way I wanted with my solar and battery set up at home, but after midday when the home battery was full, I was sending about 5kw into the car for a few hours. 'Paid' for my commute to work, so 100% free driving.
I also tested the overnight charging on the cheaper rate, and that worked too (although Octopus seemingly gave me a cheaper hour at 8pm oddly, so it started charging then)

So no regrets so far! :)
 
Turn on Joe mode also, it lowers the volume of what bings and bings you do get.

(Apparently named after some guy called Joe who requested the feature on Twitter…)
 
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Turn on Joe mode also, it lowers the volume of what bings and bings you do get.

(Apparently named after some guy called Joe who requested the feature on Twitter…)

I've genuinely not been bothered about the bongs, as there haven't been many.

I was getting some as it went in and out of different speed limit zones on the drive from collection, but it doesn't seem to be doing it anymore (I haven't turned that mode on).

I was also getting a few things as the cameras were calibrating etc, but they're gone now too.
 
The lock out the channel with a fitment that means it cannot be used or damaged.
Ah, I see. With a QR code on top if you (or I guess any subsequent property owner) wants to recommission it.

Makes sense I guess. Interesting that Charge Gulley and Gul-e don't charge a monthly fee but I'm not sure how prevalent each company is around the UK.
 
Can you buy the chargers without installation? Not like it's difficult to install.
Never mind looks like you can spotted the HyperVolt Home 3 Pro.
 
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