I dunno. My 440i was group 38, my model 3 is group 50, but my insurance on my model 3 is lower than my 440iInsurance seems a fair bit higher as well, Mondeo is group 18 and the EV4 is 35.
I dunno. My 440i was group 38, my model 3 is group 50, but my insurance on my model 3 is lower than my 440iInsurance seems a fair bit higher as well, Mondeo is group 18 and the EV4 is 35.
You need to do your own man maths. Everyones mileage can and will differ (literally and figuratively)Going to hurt that ppm, is it instead of the current £200 a year so for me would be £360 based on 12k a year.
Currently pay £35 a year. That's 3 months worth of diesel for me.
Is it a tiny teeny garage?

Garage will do if you can park your car near enough to use it and you can get power to it.
It’s a condition of the grant that you must have off street parking.
@Diddums could you park up next to the garage door?

Just big enough for my toys
Unfortunately our garages are horrible, hateful asbestos things that are literally slowly becoming one with the earth again so I'd rather not even attempt to drill in to them. Also the garage has no power so I'd have to run a supply through the garden. All good if we owned the place, but I'm not spending thousands on someone else's home.
As above, I probably could but the faff and cost just isn't worth it.
Edit: I've asked this before but seem to have lost the bookmark, what apps can I use to find local chargers? I seem to recall there being one which allows folks to rent theirs out too, is that still a thing?
@tamzzy did your M3 come with a lead or is that another expense I need to factor in?
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I think the biggest thing swinging it to an EV is work have said we can charge here, think we have 2 or 3 charging points. So that's a huge portion of my driving 50 miles a day where the electric will be free.You need to do your own man maths. Everyones mileage can and will differ (literally and figuratively)
I'm not sure I'd bother with either on a Model Y, or any other mainstream depreciating car TBH. Especially as you are good with the detailing products yourself, just do what you did with the 140i, pocket the cash and shrug off the inevitable stone chips.Quick one for you guys - to PPF or not?
Full PPF is £3.5k! Or a good ceramic coating is £650.
I'm a keen detailer myself and I know how to look after a car (my 140i had mint paint when I sold it earlier this year, owned for 6 years from new).
So is it overkill? Or I could get ceramic coating and front PPF for £1600. Worth it?
(this is for a brand new Model Y)
Depends on which model year you get. All will get the charging lead. Tesla stopped issuing the granny charger from 2023.@tamzzy did your M3 come with a lead or is that another expense I need to factor in?
Just big enough for my toys
Unfortunately our garages are horrible, hateful asbestos things that are literally slowly becoming one with the earth again so I'd rather not even attempt to drill in to them. Also the garage has no power so I'd have to run a supply through the garden. All good if we owned the place, but I'm not spending thousands on someone else's home.
As above, I probably could but the faff and cost just isn't worth it.
Edit: I've asked this before but seem to have lost the bookmark, what apps can I use to find local chargers? I seem to recall there being one which allows folks to rent theirs out too, is that still a thing?
@tamzzy did your M3 come with a lead or is that another expense I need to factor in?
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Personally, it's a white goods car why spend all that money on it? You certainly won't get £3.5k of value when it comes to resell the carQuick one for you guys - to PPF or not?
Full PPF is £3.5k! Or a good ceramic coating is £650.
I'm a keen detailer myself and I know how to look after a car (my 140i had mint paint when I sold it earlier this year, owned for 6 years from new).
So is it overkill? Or I could get ceramic coating and front PPF for £1600. Worth it?
(this is for a brand new Model Y)
Don’t bother.Quick one for you guys - to PPF or not?
Full PPF is £3.5k! Or a good ceramic coating is £650.
I'm a keen detailer myself and I know how to look after a car (my 140i had mint paint when I sold it earlier this year, owned for 6 years from new).
So is it overkill? Or I could get ceramic coating and front PPF for £1600. Worth it?
(this is for a brand new Model Y)
Yeah the difference in group doesn't seem to translate to much of an increase £423 to £438 so basically nothing in it.I dunno. My 440i was group 38, my model 3 is group 50, but my insurance on my model 3 is lower than my 440i
Don’t bother.
I wouldn’t even bother with the ceramic coating unless you are doing it yourself, especially if you don’t own the car outright.
But just know modern paint is **** and it will chip within 5 minutes, particularly with the low snub nose like on the Y.
The bonnet will catch a lot of stones due to the angle. Get a decent ChipX kit and make pease with it.
They are usually ok with small chips if they follow BVLRA guidelinesJust tagging on to this - as this will be our first lease, how bad are companies with stone chips and stuff? We'll be doing moon mileage so it WILL get chips, I just need to know if there's anything I can do to prevent facing a £lol bill when we hand the car back.
Don’t bother.
I wouldn’t even bother with the ceramic coating unless you are doing it yourself, especially if you don’t own the car outright.
But just know modern paint is **** and it will chip within 5 minutes, particularly with the low snub nose like on the Y.
The bonnet will catch a lot of stones due to the angle. Get a decent ChipX kit and make pease with it.
They allow a certain amount of chips per panel (think it varies between 4 and 8), if you go above that they charge you the rate to fix the panel (approx £2-300). However when you hand it back they do take into account the mileage and not just the age and you would usually get a "goodwill" gesture against any bill. Then just challenge it, more often than not you will get away with it as they then can't prove anything as the car is usually sold at auction within days of it going back, so all they've got is a photo.Just tagging on to this - as this will be our first lease, how bad are companies with stone chips and stuff? We'll be doing moon mileage so it WILL get chips, I just need to know if there's anything I can do to prevent facing a £lol bill when we hand the car back.
Probably too much of a wait/faff, but they are now piloting pavement charging where I live, company called Kerbo are doing it in Leeds. Can't find any updates on how well the pilot is going, but essentially they cut a channel from your property across the pavement, you then push your charging cable into that so it's not a trip hazard and plug into your car. Not sure how well it stands up to idiots who might try to mess about with it either when charging or not in use.Thanks, but we don't have a driveway unfortunately. We have a garage, two gardens, three bedrooms, three bathrooms, and no driveway. You couldn't write this stuff.
Kerbo charge have been around ages now, no idea why they need to do a pilot on a proven workable solution.Probably too much of a wait/faff, but they are now piloting pavement charging where I live, company called Kerbo are doing it in Leeds. Can't find any updates on how well the pilot is going, but essentially they cut a channel from your property across the pavement, you then push your charging cable into that so it's not a trip hazard and plug into your car. Not sure how well it stands up to idiots who might try to mess about with it either when charging or not in use.