EV general discussion

peter · 12 Apr 2022 at 22:22

Just had a id4 for 4 days not exiting to drive but 270 miles range was great.

jpaul · 13 Apr 2022 at 08:00

which version ? albeit rare video style of people testing ev's on roads with bends , this guy had a lot of fun.

jpaul said:
still liking this guy testing his id4 on real roads Deep Driving Analysis - Volkswagen ID.4 First Edition
a car for the millions.

Jonnycoupe · 13 Apr 2022 at 08:08

Oooh. Another video!

Simon · 13 Apr 2022 at 09:00

And its an American on a canyon road. Anything will feel fun on those roads compared to their normal dull roads.

lordrobs · 13 Apr 2022 at 09:02

jpaul said:
which version ? albeit rare video style of people testing ev's on roads with bends , this guy had a lot of fun.

"Light assist - Sport" :confused:

chanjy · 13 Apr 2022 at 10:08

lol "Deep driving analysis"

I was just thinking that there haven't been many new EVs announced recently, still the same old same old. Am I wrong? What's in the pipeline?

Simon · 13 Apr 2022 at 10:10

I ordered a Mini 2 electric last week as a second car to my M3, as it will pay for itself in fuel saving. I wonder if I can get it before 2023.

Greebo · 13 Apr 2022 at 10:19

Journey said:
Good to see the public charging infrastructure growing

"There were more than 400 new rapid and ultra-rapid chargers from over 22 different networks added to UK network in first quarter of the year, according to new figures from Zap-Map."
"Total EV charge points have grown 7% so far in 2022 to 30,409 across 19,150 locations."

Looks like Instavolt are really pushing hard this year as well as Gridserve, will be intresting to see what the likes of BP and Shell can do in comparison.

not really, no where near fast enough. EV sale up 107%, amount of chargers up 7%. And out starting point is the worst ratio of charges to EV cars in the world anyway.

Yet again the UK will miss this up.

peter · 13 Apr 2022 at 10:37

jpaul first edition in yellow I liked the look of it.

delta0 · 13 Apr 2022 at 10:37

Greebo said:
not really, no where near fast enough. EV sale up 107%, amount of chargers up 7%. And out starting point is the worst ratio of charges to EV cars in the world anyway.

Yet again the UK will miss this up.

The number of chargers is supposed to be increasing by 10x over the next 7-8 years. They need to really accelerate this.

peter · 13 Apr 2022 at 10:43

Thanks to the MK ev experience centre. Plus you get free charging on BP chargers. It was the first time I had used adaptive cruise control as well. £100 for 4 days including 400 miles we would have used that in of petrol so effectively free.

lordrobs · 13 Apr 2022 at 11:34

peter said:
Thanks to the MK ev experience centre. Plus you get free charging on BP chargers. It was the first time I had used adaptive cruise control as well. £100 for 4 days including 400 miles we would have used that in of petrol so effectively free.

Sub 30 MPG in your current car or EV maths?

peter · 13 Apr 2022 at 12:05

Yes that does make 29.2 mpg at prices around here, but if it was a petrol suv with that sort of performance would you get much more?

chroniclard · 13 Apr 2022 at 12:21

chanjy said:
lol "Deep driving analysis"

I was just thinking that there haven't been many new EVs announced recently, still the same old same old. Am I wrong? What's in the pipeline?

They are all quite meh at the moment, unless your spending 60k+, was looking forward to see how the Cupra El Born turned out but its not really a hot hatch at all, just a reskinned ID3, quite disappointing.

VW Buzz seems quirky but going to be 60 grand+

lordrobs · 13 Apr 2022 at 12:24

peter said:
Yes that does make 29.2 mpg at prices around here, but if it was a petrol suv with that sort of performance would you get much more?

EV maths then

I have no idea TBH. EV "performance" is so skewed compared to ICE that it makes it hard to compare. I assume we are talking power rather than any kind of handling characteristics so... are we comparing cars with 200bhp, mid 8 second 0-60 times or a top speed of 99mph. All are about as irrelevant as each other

chanjy · 13 Apr 2022 at 12:24

peter said:
Yes that does make 29.2 mpg at prices around here, but if it was a petrol suv with that sort of performance would you get much more?

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/volkswagen/tiguan-2016/20-tsi-230-dsg-4motion

I'd say you were pretty much bang on

lordrobs · 13 Apr 2022 at 13:15

chanjy said:
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/volkswagen/tiguan-2016/20-tsi-230-dsg-4motion

I'd say you were pretty much bang on

I'd say a much closer comparison would be the 1.5 2WD TSI which averages 39 mpg by that same source. It's all pretty irrelevant though because they were talking about the money they saved on petrol on an equivalent car they don't own

I make similar savings daily by not driving a C63 Merc

jpaul · 13 Apr 2022 at 13:51

... peter had posted about a 530e , so if that was the reference ...better handling/accn/weight ?; nonetheless a £25/day trial sounds a good deal.

413x · 13 Apr 2022 at 14:22

It inches closer. But right now?
I can't see it in next few years.

I never buy a brand new car. And current new cars are only just getting there.

My use case does not lend well to electric unfortunately
Nor new cars

SDK^ · 13 Apr 2022 at 14:30

peter said:
jpaul first edition in yellow I liked the look of it.

These are perfect family cars and look great.
Also - when you have an EV you open up the options for cheaper overnight charging. For me a month’s driving is about 800 miles which costs just £30 on Octopus Go.