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Bug One said:
I disagree. The forecourts are already in the locations that fuel is needed. Getting power there is a challenge, but one we need to overcome before EV's go mainstream in a few years. Forecourts will need to get bigger to accommodate cars charging.

Fortunately, it seems some garages are starting to make the move. Our local MFG station has expanded their forecourt and installed a bank of fast chargers - and investing in many more.

This is what's needed for proper EV adoption.
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You are making stuff up if you think the ideal place for rapid chargers is an urban crowded environment on a minor road. Whats happening now is the now, big charging hubs on primary branchroads, urban environment are much better for destination charge speeds.

MFG are doing it, Gridserve are beasting the motorways and loads more investing -its happening, it doesn't need some crackpot knee-jerk law making.
 
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Jonnycoupe said:
You are making stuff up if you think the ideal place for rapid chargers is an urban crowded environment on a minor road. Whats happening now is the now, big charging hubs on primary branchroads, urban environment are much better for destination charge speeds.

MFG are doing it, Gridserve are beasting the motorways and loads more investing -its happening, it doesn't need some crackpot knee-jerk law making.
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Surely, anything you 'think' is made up, no?

But, to re-iterate. I stated 'main road' fuel stations. So, on motorways, and main routes. Not in the middle of towns.

The MFG example (which is a fact, not something I'm making up) is just to proove it is possible to add chargers to an existing forecourt.
 
I guess I just mean deciding where private companires should spent their money where power supply even when government funded support hasn’t been guaranteed is crazy. Look at the Shell units in Hayle as case on point
 
lordrobs said:
Sucks for people on the road for their job though. My overnight stops still either don't have any charging or have a token effort 7kW job on a first come first served basis. Or in other words, one that can't be relied upon. Our customers VERY rarely have a charger on site and even less frequently in a situation where I could conveniently use it while on site.

That would leave me claiming back hundreds of miles a month that probably cost me in the region of 20p/mile (or more?) at the HMRC rate of 9p/mile.

I was hoping that things would improve in line with the number of EVs on the road but while people are still happy to buy them, and judging by the numbers I'm seeing in my area that is very much the case, where is the push to improve infrastructure? If there is no push (ie. government incentives / funding) then it only leaves a financial incentive to bother putting them in... and that comes at a cost which will want to be recouped as quickly as possible before becoming a revenue generating mechanism.

Luckily (?) for me my employer has no intention of going EV for the foreseeable future :( Which is ironic considering the sector we are in.
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If you have to use rapids on a daily basis then that would swing me to getting a Tesla. For a personal car you should be getting 45p a mile, that will more than cover the rapid price kWh these days won't it?
 
In regards to converting petrol stations, then yes that could be a thing. Shell did one in London awhile ago now.

Obviously it depends on if the location is suitable and a suitable power supply can be installed.

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Stations in Norway are ripping out pumps and replacing them with chargers in the existing canopies now too.
 
1.5m for that wooden canopy apparently. It’s not really a example station we will see everywhere. More of a showcase location
 
gazref said:
If you have to use rapids on a daily basis then that would swing me to getting a Tesla. For a personal car you should be getting 45p a mile, that will more than cover the rapid price kWh these days won't it?
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Company car so only fuel would be covered at the HMRC rate.

It works OK for petrol (especially now I pay my employer for private miles at the HMRC rate :D ) because fuel prices, motorway services aside, are pretty consistent everywhere. Electricity on the other hand can be 7.5p per kWh at home or nearly ten times that amount on a rapid. A single ppm figure can't reasonably cover both eventualities so I can't really see a way around that.

People used to just suck it up because of the BIK savings but the bait and switch is well underway now so those savings will dwindle year on year. Ironically with EVs going up by 1% per year from 2025-27 while my fossil fuel burners rate is fixed over the same time period. That said the BIK savings are still huge... for the next few years at least.
 
I do not support what those people are doing at all, gluing themselves to roads etc but..... who was that presenter? it is obvious surely to even a dumb person (like myself perhaps) that some wood is sustainable
where as cement is absolutely terrible for the environment.

we do still need to use it to a point of course at the moment but "yes you can grow concrete"... what the actual flip was that bloke on?

ultimately we will never not have some form of negative footprint. all we can do is minimise our damage and offset what damage is inevitable... and using properly resourced wood seems a good place to start.

insulate Britain and stop oil people ..imo argue their tactics for sure but their message ultimately is a good one imo.
 
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Anyone here linked their car to the Tronity app/service?

Just discovered it yesterday. Seems really good as it tells me loads more than the OEM Cupra app does. Logs trips with distances and consumption. Notifications to your phone when it hits certain charging points like 80-90-100%. Can link it to ABRP for live SoC for route planning too which is a bit of a game changer.
 
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Yeah it’s pretty neat. Maps of where you have been is interesting too and on the web based version the charges have a decent go at plotting the charge curve
 
Yep had it since day one. And they upgraded me to the paid for service for free. The charging notification is very useful. The consumption is hot and miss on short trips as it just uses % of the car to work out how much used. Good for keeping track of charging costs though.
 
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