Peole just see what they want to seeICE is getting hammered too with insurance costs, or did those two miss that thread?
Massive Car insurance costs?
Just seeing if I'm going mad here. Been driving 2 years, no points. 32 years old. Last year's insurance was £610 on Hastings Premier. Just looking at quotes and the same plan on compare the market is £864? what on earth is going on??? Can't get it below 850 no matter what I do or where I look...forums.overclockers.co.uk
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I think I'm right in saying JLR have centralised their parts or service items locations and it's created a huge bottleneck. This then leads to enxtended repair times and the added costs of courtesy cars etc.
Think I Pace is included by association as they are seperately built in Austria.
I had a part replaced on my I Pace and it took a week to arrive. No big deal for me.
Think I Pace is included by association as they are seperately built in Austria.
I had a part replaced on my I Pace and it took a week to arrive. No big deal for me.
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My heater went on mine during COVID and the chip shortage. Spent 3 months in a brand new Velar whilst it was sorted. Not an insurance issue but a big expense to JLR.
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I dont know about the launch ipaces but the MY21 facelift onwards has a newer security system which is harder to hack
my ipace is going in for an MOT in December. usually the courtesy car would be another ipace however I asked if they happened to have an F Type courtesy car because I always fancied one (worth a try
). the lady on the phone said they do have one but would usually be for F Type owners however it's available on the day I can have it. if that happens I will cope with them taking longer than usual 
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The insurance increases are falling, but still very much a thing. Earlier in 23 many were seeing 75% plus, as we went through the summer that dropped to more like 50% and its more like 30% now.
I assume they were rising faster end of last year so those renewing now had higher last year as well where as those who renewed earlier in 23 didn't have that hike last year.
I don't know anyone who hasn't seen a significant quote jump this year. Many of us find a quote elsewhere thats not bad, but thats pretty normal.
I assume they were rising faster end of last year so those renewing now had higher last year as well where as those who renewed earlier in 23 didn't have that hike last year.
I don't know anyone who hasn't seen a significant quote jump this year. Many of us find a quote elsewhere thats not bad, but thats pretty normal.
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Cupra have nailed it again on the looks front at least. I really like the cupra born and this one looks just as good if you want a bigger car
www.cupraofficial.co.uk
to try to show while I am an EV fanboy I do try to be honest..... I amon a Debbie Downer tonight. I am promised this is very rare from Tesla owners I tried my 1st Tesla charge today on some brand new V4 chargers.
they were showing on the app as online however all of the new V4s were refusing to initiate a charge. it wasn't just non Tesla's , was a pain as we needed to charge so did mean some hassle.
it was bad luck however. we were running late and had hit the charge point at the worst time with a 7 year old who needed food so we had to stop there and not charge. Unfortunately the wife who was already on the fence on EVs and the infrastructure not being fit for purpose has totally put the skids on replacing her car with an EV. she thinks 2 EVs is just not feasible (despite her car being a far better fit to be an EV than mine).
so looks like my plans to get a yellow Renault 5 EV are now in the toilet
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to try to show while I am an EV fanboy I do try to be honest..... I amon a Debbie Downer tonight. I am promised this is very rare from Tesla owners I tried my 1st Tesla charge today on some brand new V4 chargers.
they were showing on the app as online however all of the new V4s were refusing to initiate a charge. it wasn't just non Tesla's , was a pain as we needed to charge so did mean some hassle.
it was bad luck however. we were running late and had hit the charge point at the worst time with a 7 year old who needed food so we had to stop there and not charge. Unfortunately the wife who was already on the fence on EVs and the infrastructure not being fit for purpose has totally put the skids on replacing her car with an EV. she thinks 2 EVs is just not feasible (despite her car being a far better fit to be an EV than mine).
so looks like my plans to get a yellow Renault 5 EV are now in the toilet
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That's an ID5 in drag lol but yes not hard to make it look better than VW haveCupra have nailed it again on the looks front at least. I really like the cupra born and this one looks just as good if you want a bigger car
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I dont know about the launch ipaces but the MY21 facelift onwards has a newer security system which is harder to hack
my ipace is going in for an MOT in December. usually the courtesy car would be another ipace however I asked if they happened to have an F Type courtesy car because I always fancied one (worth a try
It's two years old now so the time required to hack it is probably 1/4 of what is was, it will keep decreasing as processing power moves on until it's instant. But there are likely holes already. It would need to be patched regularly to keep it secure. All these keyless/wireless systems are vulnerable. It was the worst decision ever to secure cars this way.
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Just signed my end of an EV Salary Sacrifice for a Tesla Model Y LR.
I've been doing longer journeys on weekends and found that some places have few charging opportunities and having to spend a bit more time planning that normal, especially if off the beaten track, so despite not being a fan of the looks, the supercharger network and extended range of the Model Y is hard to beat, that and it's relatively one of the best VFMs by a margin on EV Salary Sacrifice..
Its for the family wagon anyway, so I'm not overly fussed about looks, and whilst I could wait for the slight update with the interior, I don't want to risk what are pretty decent lease costs at the moment.
I've been doing longer journeys on weekends and found that some places have few charging opportunities and having to spend a bit more time planning that normal, especially if off the beaten track, so despite not being a fan of the looks, the supercharger network and extended range of the Model Y is hard to beat, that and it's relatively one of the best VFMs by a margin on EV Salary Sacrifice..
Its for the family wagon anyway, so I'm not overly fussed about looks, and whilst I could wait for the slight update with the interior, I don't want to risk what are pretty decent lease costs at the moment.
The model Y LR misses its targeted range by quite a bit I think it’s like 20% less due to being AWD. But it is a rapid car.
Also the boot is a bit of an issue. Due to the slopey rear end, you can get kiddie bikes and luggages in and you need to invest in a bike trailer albeit you will need that anyways for adult bikes + luggage
Maybe someone to consider of the above is applicable to you
Also the boot is a bit of an issue. Due to the slopey rear end, you can get kiddie bikes and luggages in and you need to invest in a bike trailer albeit you will need that anyways for adult bikes + luggage
Maybe someone to consider of the above is applicable to you
How is the not getting the WLTP range unique to the Model Y or that it’s AWD?
It’s the same on every EV because no one drives the WLTP test cycle in the real world. Getting within 20% of WLTP is actually pretty decent in the real world, the usual rule of thumb is WLTP -30% for dire winter days for any EV.
I get the point about the boot, it might not be great for the biggest dogs either. That said, I’d struggle to think of any cars which can fit a full size adult bike (particularly a mountain bike) in the boot without at least taking off the front wheel and dropping the back seats. You also aren’t putting anything else significant in there without just piling it on top of the bike.
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Pretty successful and uneventful trip (other than the fun of fitting everything in the car!) Managed to get there with 20 miles left, quick top up in Keswick, and hit the MFG charger in Wigan on the way back, no drama. The roofbox is a major drag though (pun intended), and definitely hit the range by maybe 40-50 miles, so... *Quick maths* 20% or so
Enyaq?
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cupra looks nice, but no leather seat option makes it a non-starter with dust mite allergy.
The boot on the enyaq isn’t that big, you’re at least putting the seats down to put in an adult bike in the back. You might get a road bike in without taking the wheel of bits a damn sight easier if it’s off.
The front end of a mountain bike is massive with large wheels and wide bars, you’d be taking at least the front off to pull the bars round ‘flat pack’ it.
A bike isn’t at all tall once it’s ‘flat packed’. I’m pretty sure I’ve got a bike in the back of a Clio when I had one. I’m struggling to see how you wouldn’t get one in a Model Y with plenty of space to place other luggage or a second bike.
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How many people survive with just the slow granny charger?
I got the Enyaq, I can fit two kiddie bikes and two medium luggage’s with shopping for a week stay.
Won’t be able to do that in a MY boot.
As I said they were kiddie bikes not full size adult bikes. You would struggle to get two adult bikes in any car unless it’s a van or a passenger carrier/MPV with rear most seats taken out.
The -20% of stated range for Tesla is optimum condition. Most likely you are looking at -30% in winter. And the -30% of stated is probably true for all EV in winter. Cold and battery are just not a good combo. Once battery has been warmed on long journeys then it ain’t much issue. But short journeys definitely a killer on range
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I do. Only 6k/miles a year though.
The point is that the -20% is exactly the same on the Enyaq in optimum conditions. It is no different on any other EV on the market at the moment because no one drives the WLTP cycle which is widely optimistic compared to the real world.
The big battery RWD Enyaq has a rated range of ~330 miles. I don't own an Enyaq nor have I driven one (or an ID.4) but there is not a chance on in a month of Sundays that you get 330 miles out of one when driven normally in the real world. All credible reports suggested they get 260-270 miles which is pretty much bang on -20%.
Incidentally that's pretty much the same the same as an AWD Model Y which has roughly the same sized usable battery but has nearly twice the power.
The only way I can see you getting anything close to the WLTP range in real world conditions is if the car has ridiculously low drag so they are not impacted as much by higher real world driving speeds compared to the WLTP test cycle. At this point you are talking about highly impractical cars like the Aptera or Lightyear which normal people will want to own.
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