It was cosmetic stuff. I'm not worried about a Toyota breaking down lol. Especially the older ones. New ones might not be as great with all the emissions crap and 3cyl engines.
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It was cosmetic stuff. I'm not worried about a Toyota breaking down lol. Especially the older ones. New ones might not be as great with all the emissions crap and 3cyl engines.
Cosmetic stuff that cost £1000 to repair?
Cosmetic stuff that cost £1000 to repair?
£1000 will get you a smart repair these days.
One of the things I am reading about is these keyless cars being easily stolen. Guy comes up to car a few meters away and waits while his hacking device goes though all the frequencies. When it finds correct one, drives off with the car.
This would be the case with say an ioniq 5 which I was looking at. Sure I could make the effort to park it at home in my garage rather than drive, but what about when out and about?
Thoughts on this?
This would be the case with say an ioniq 5 which I was looking at. Sure I could make the effort to park it at home in my garage rather than drive, but what about when out and about?
Thoughts on this?
Unfortunately not. Wish it was that simple. There is a device out there that can interact with the car and unlock it without having the key in range. Just saw some videos on YouTube. Basically only way to protect car from these guys is steering wheel lock and other physical methods it seems. And even then no guarantee. But obviously you put them off.
Kind of put me off tbh. I always did think keyless stuff was crazy. How ******* hard is it to click a button to unlock and lock your car or stick in an keyband turn it?
From what I can see both Kia and Hyundai mainly impacted from this stuff.
I am going to hold off for another couple of years and see what's what then. Not like I need an upgrade anyway
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If you're concerned about the "Gameboy" attacks then install a Ghost or something similar.Unfortunately not. Wish it was that simple. There is a device out there that can interact with the car and unlock it without having the key in range. Just saw some videos on YouTube. Basically only way to protect car from these guys is steering wheel lock and other physical methods it seems. And even then no guarantee. But obviously you put them off.
Kind of put me off tbh. I always did think keyless stuff was crazy. How ******* hard is it to click a button to unlock and lock your car or stick in an keyband turn it?
From what I can see both Kia and Hyundai mainly impacted from this stuff.
I am going to hold off for another couple of years and see what's what then. Not like I need an upgrade anyway
Why should one have too really. Tech overreach.
How would that help? I can track the car but police won't likely help. Say I go get the car myself successfully, it would likely either have something stollen or trashed. Now my insurance goes up..
Exactly this. And I like my tech. But some tech is just stupid imo.
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I don't disagree it's frustrating but there are flaws of some sort in the majority of mainstream cars and in the end, if someone wants the car they will just break into your house and take the keys. Although based off some of the people I've seen on the forum I'm sure they would be ready with the gravy seals and their keyboards to beat them to a pulp
He asked for thoughts, I provided a solution to minimise the risk of a gameboy attack or relay attack. I really don't get people on this forum sometimes
I've heard about the Ioniq 5/Kia issues. I actually bought an Ioniq 5 about 4 week ago and it does concern me a little bit. I don't understand why in this day and age you can't just have some sort of 2FA or a pin you enter when you start the car. I ended up getting a steeringwheel lock that wraps around your wheel and clips into the seat belt as I didn't want one of those clunky ones. That way I can just put it in the glove box when I'm driving. Really, it's more of a deterrent as most of us have seen how easy it is to break/cut through bike locks.
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It's not a tracker, it's a CANbus immoboliser. https://www.autowatch.co.uk/veh-sec/ghost-2-menu
There are alternatives that offer similar solutions.
I’d agree it’s a sensible thing to do, although, as you say, it’s quite easy to bypass. However, it is a physical deterrent and will hopefully make them just pick another car without any extra security.
Most modern cars come with a keyless system. Like I said, the majority of cars then have an issue with relay theft. Some have tried to combat it by making the keyfob go to sleep after a short period of time. There have been many calls for people to implement a PIN, similar to Ghost/Tesla but it hasn't caught on. Both the relay attacks and the gameboy attacks aren't an EV specific problem.
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I’d buy an Ioniq 5 if I wanted one and just enjoy my life and stop reading alarmist internet articles tbh
There’s not thousands of keyless entry hackers out there working for gangs nicking cars and the odds they would choose your mid priced EV as your target is incredibly slim to the point I wouldn’t even spend time thinking about it
There’s not thousands of keyless entry hackers out there working for gangs nicking cars and the odds they would choose your mid priced EV as your target is incredibly slim to the point I wouldn’t even spend time thinking about it
It is good to be you in some ways I suppose
I live in London where most of these incidents occur. If I can help it I am not going to buy a car that is a thief magnet.
Some cars are just a lot more attractive to them then others. At my old address everyone that had a range rover had them stolen. Everyone else was fine. I did not even know about thief's operating in the area until I spoke to a neighbour one day.
The other issue becomes insurance cost. When cars statistically have a higher chance of being stollen, they end up costing more to insure. Not long ago someone posted on here and the difference in insurance cost between a ioniq 5 and another car he was looking at was huge.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. We all think differently. Some more yolo than others for example
My bad. The only time I recall hearing about them was on this forum. It was a few years ago and he had huge problems after having one fitted a recall reading. Was a Mercedes I believe. In the end not sure if he had the warranty honoured but he went through a lot of stress. If I did get one I would have to get it in writing that it is not an issue from the manufacturer warranty.
As I recall he was assured by everyone it was not an issue. But in the end it turned out it was.
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Same as Meal Team Six…
Because in this day and age it's too much effort to press a button to lock and unlock your car which is what's caused the issue in the first place.
Having to tap in a 4 digit PIN to drive... Think of the horror!