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When you could get home empty and leave with a full charge every day, I can’t see how that wouldn’t materially change the experience compared to public charging for all milage.

Even if it wasn’t enough to get you through the day every day you’d be taking a massive amount of time off how long you’d spend at any chargers.
 
When you could get home empty and leave with a full charge every day, I can’t see how that wouldn’t materially change the experience compared to public charging for all milage.

Even if it wasn’t enough to get you through the day every day you’d be taking a massive amount of time off how long you’d spend at any chargers.

It's illogical for anyone to suggest that it doesn't entirely change the experience and practicality.
 
A lot of EV misplaced justification going on?
Like I said, it works for some, not for me.
I think it's fine to say it didn't work for you

It's probably the fact you're saying it would never work for you even if you had a home charger that people are taking exception to... seems a bit illogical
 
It's like trying to cut a steak with a spoon and saying spoons only work for some people.

If someone doesn't want a home charger my first advice is don't get an EV or PHEV. That's 101.
 
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A lot of EV misplaced justification going on?
Like I said, it works for some, not for me.

No, quite the opposite, we agree in your circumstances that not having home charging and having an EV is a bad idea and sticking with ICE is a sensible choice. If anything diesel over mild hybrid is probably even better in practice if you are doing big miles but that’s a filthy word these days.

What I can’t get my head around is your view that having home charging wouldn’t have improved your overall experience. Ultimately it doesn’t really matter as it’s not the right product for you in 2026.
 
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Maybe his work takes him all over the country staying in hotels mid week? I know plenty of people who live out of hotels for two or three nights a week. While that 100% battery first thing on a Monday morning is great, after that you are in the realms of public charging and it becomes irrelevant to whether the car is right for you or not.

In short, why assume you know the guys life just because an EV works within your bubble?!

Great to see everyone is so on board with EVs being unworkable if you can't charge at home, roll on 2035 and two fingers to those without a drive.
 
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Maybe his work takes him all over the country staying in hotels mid week? I know plenty of people who live out of hotels for two or three nights a week. While that 100% battery first thing on a Monday morning is great, after that you are in the realms of public charging and it becomes irrelevant to whether the car is right for you or not.

In short, why assume you know the guys life just because an EV works within your bubble?!

Great to see everyone is so on board with EVs being unworkable if you can't charge at home, roll on 2035 and two fingers to those without a drive.

If someone said they work all over the country no one's recommending them an EV or PHEV.

Quite obvious with a few questions no need to assume anything.
 
If someone said they work all over the country no one's recommending them an EV or PHEV.

Quite obvious with a few questions no need to assume anything.
No it wouldn't, I was driving all over the country, sometimes in freezing conditions?
The work was a hypothetical but as you can see, driving all over the country.

So you are saying that an EV is no good for that? I mean that's good information coming from an owner like yourself to a muggle like me who is looking at what my next car might be.
 
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I was quite happy with my range this AM, especially as the car reported the outside temperature of -8 :D

I get somewhere between 25-32 in the summer, and it was reporting as low as 15 this AM, but it did the school run on electricity only, as it does every day :)

How are the full EVs fairing, compared to summer temps? Is it as severe as I see on my PHEV?

*edit* Also, I am not sure I could ever own a car without pre-heating ever again, I take it for granted so much, but when I jump in the Mrs' Corsa, I remember how lucky I am to have it!
 
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I was quite happy with my range this AM, especially as the car reported the outside temperature of -8 :D

I get somewhere between 25-32 in the summer, and it was reporting as low as 15 this AM, but it did the school run on electricity only, as it does every day :)

How are the full EVs fairing, compared to summer temps? Is it as severe as I see on my PHEV?
I'm showing 19 EV miles this morning from a reported 32 in the summer (but I have had 35+ out of it on multiple occasions). That was at -8C and after the pre conditioning running drawing 2kW from the charger but burning 5kW via the PTC heater (according to google).

17 mile trip to work and now showing 3 miles so seems about right.
 
I was quite happy with my range this AM, especially as the car reported the outside temperature of -8 :D

I get somewhere between 25-32 in the summer, and it was reporting as low as 15 this AM, but it did the school run on electricity only, as is does every day :)

How are the full EVs fairing, compared to summer temps? Is it as severe as I see on my PHEV?
Our PHEV battery range estimate has essentially halved - was around 36 most days in the summer, just checked this morning - 18 miles :E However, it's still enough that we can do most of our daily driving. And if I do a short trip early in the day, say a couple of miles to the supermarket, I will now plug the car in again when I get home if I know we'll use it later. I don't benefit from the cheap overnight rate, but it's still cheaper than petrol, especially as I'm just topping up.

My only concern is that when we picked the car up, the battery was set to charge to 80% max. That wouldn't really be practical, so I just set it to 100%, but I do worry a little about whether that's going to be bad for the battery in the long run. But the car is only ever slow charged on the 3-pin, so I hope that might be better for it.
 
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Our PHEV battery range estimate has essentially halved - was around 36 most days in the summer, just checked this morning - 18 miles :E However, it's still enough that we can do most of our daily driving. And if I do a short trip early in the day, say a couple of miles to the supermarket, I will now plug the car in again when I get home if I know we'll use it later. I don't benefit from the cheap overnight rate, but it's still cheaper than petrol, especially as I'm just topping up.

My only concern is that when we picked the car up, the battery was set to charge to 80% max. That wouldn't really be practical, so I just set it to 100%, but I do worry a little about whether that's going to be bad for the battery in the long run. But the car is only ever slow charged on the 3-pin, so I hope that might be better for it.
As long as you're not charging it to 100 and leaving it parked up for more than a few hours you'll be fine.

While it will still 'wear' the battery out more charging to 100 vs 80, its sitting at 100 for extended periods that really murders the cells.
 
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