EV general discussion

would be interesting to know how professional multi-stop nav e routsoftware competes with likes of Waze and driver personal knowledge to optimize urban routes
(roads around our way known to have bottlenecks, or school stops, temp roadworks, potholes are those all considered)
equally with just a couple of fast chargers back at base if the software can schedule trips to return to base when a charger would be available
It's generally very good based on what I've seen of the stats from our DCs
 
would be interesting to know how professional multi-stop nav e routsoftware competes with likes of Waze and driver personal knowledge to optimize urban routes
(roads around our way known to have bottlenecks, or school stops, temp roadworks, potholes are those all considered)
equally with just a couple of fast chargers back at base if the software can schedule trips to return to base when a charger would be available

It competes on the basis they must take the route supplied and all and any deviations are monitored and reported, in the instance above all the new vans also have a camera front and back, and GPS tacking data, so all devotions can be examined if required. In this specific example the software is more trustworthy than the employees, even if it isn't as good for some circumstances, overall they are hoping to save time and therefore money, and achieve more on time deliveries. They've already had one driver hand in his notice, as he refused to drive a van that is tracked.
 
How are EVs recovered? I'm guessing it'll vary from car to car, but I saw a 25 plate Volvo of some sort "broken down" yesterday at an extremely busy choke point, causing a tail back for miles. That prompted this post, I'm guessing there's no way to decouple the wheels from the motor(s)?

Must make recovery quite tricky and attract longer wait times as lifting trucks are probably a lot less common. No chance of just pushing it to the road side is there?
 
How are EVs recovered? I'm guessing it'll vary from car to car, but I saw a 25 plate Volvo of some sort "broken down" yesterday at an extremely busy choke point, causing a tail back for miles. That prompted this post, I'm guessing there's no way to decouple the wheels from the motor(s)?

Must make recovery quite tricky and attract longer wait times as lifting trucks are probably a lot less common. No chance of just pushing it to the road side is there?
It depends much like most cars.

As a general rule you need to life all driven wheels off the ground. That’s easier with a FWD as you can stick it in a dolly. RWD and AWD will likely need a flat bed.

Most do allow them to be dragged or pushed short distances very slowly but it of course depends what the fault is and whether you can get the car into ‘neutral’ or not.
 
How are EVs recovered? I'm guessing it'll vary from car to car, but I saw a 25 plate Volvo of some sort "broken down" yesterday at an extremely busy choke point, causing a tail back for miles. That prompted this post, I'm guessing there's no way to decouple the wheels from the motor(s)?

Must make recovery quite tricky and attract longer wait times as lifting trucks are probably a lot less common. No chance of just pushing it to the road side is there?
Having experienced this only last week it will depend on what has failed and where the vehicle is located.

My Etron GT was at the end of my sloped drive facing onto the road. The HV system had failed so there was no drive, power steering and very little in the way of brakes. Fortunately as the 12v system was still functioning they were able to put it in neutral and release the handbrake. Sadly due to the angle of the drive it needed 2 recovery guys to push the car (2+ tons) up the drive and then to both turn the steering wheel to get it off the drive and then loaded onto the flat bed. Ideally they'd have put the flatbed with the winch at the end of the drive and towed it up, but angles didn't work, so an hour of much swearing and cursing later it was loaded on to the back of the truck. If the 12v system was dead then they'd have had a significantly harder job recovering it, with the car locked in park and the hand brake locked on.
 
How are EVs recovered? I'm guessing it'll vary from car to car, but I saw a 25 plate Volvo of some sort "broken down" yesterday at an extremely busy choke point, causing a tail back for miles. That prompted this post, I'm guessing there's no way to decouple the wheels from the motor(s)?

Must make recovery quite tricky and attract longer wait times as lifting trucks are probably a lot less common. No chance of just pushing it to the road side is there?
My front wheel drive ev was towed using an aa van with a lift kit in the back.
It was towed away like a normal car, the brakes were put into service/ maintenance mode.
 
No difference in recovering EV 's than ICE really, I had a A4 that within a month old threw up a gearbox issue and couldn't be moved as it refused to go into any gear with it locked in park. They just took it away on a flatbed after pushing it out of my driveway with me in it manually releasing the park mechanism with a special tool through the floor to the gearbox.
 
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Cheers, that's what I thought.


Also, my wife came home yesterday and said "I saw an EV I really like"

Me, knowing that my wife likes small cars, immediately think something like a R5.


"So what was it?"

"An Ora Cat"

FML.
Have you looked at one in person? They are quite nice inside for the price used. Not something you'd normally put on your short list but still worth looking at before crossing off.
 
Have you looked at one in person? They are quite nice inside for the price used. Not something you'd normally put on your short list but still worth looking at before crossing off.

Oh don't get me wrong, I think they're funky looking things and I wouldn't mind one as a second car, but we do 80 miles a day commuting and don't have home charging which rules it out unfortunately. I believe the range is 200 miles or so.

We've gotten a lot more aggressive with saving for a mortgage though, so hopefully in the next year or two we can tool up properly and I can get an EV and a honking big V8 for the weekends and road trips.
 
It competes on the basis they must take the route supplied and all and any deviations are monitored and reported, in the instance above all the new vans also have a camera front and back, and GPS tacking data, so all devotions can be examined if required. In this specific example the software is more trustworthy than the employees, even if it isn't as good for some circumstances, overall they are hoping to save time and therefore money, and achieve more on time deliveries. They've already had one driver hand in his notice, as he refused to drive a van that is tracked.
Off topic I know but that sounds like a terrible work environment!

Makes you appreciate being in a role where you are trusted and your employer doesn't feel the need to stick a tracker up your backside!
 
Cheers, that's what I thought.


Also, my wife came home yesterday and said "I saw an EV I really like"

Me, knowing that my wife likes small cars, immediately think something like a R5.


"So what was it?"

"An Ora Cat"

FML.
My wife has one of them and she loves it.
Range is a little poor, but after moving from a Renault Crapture, she thinks it's great (and she hates change)
 
Off topic I know but that sounds like a terrible work environment!

Makes you appreciate being in a role where you are trusted and your employer doesn't feel the need to stick a tracker up your backside!
I'd say if the employees weren't caught taking the pee in the first place, when all they were trying to do was capture driving data - trust goes both ways, if you can't trust people you employ then its better off if they are gone.
 
I'd say if the employees weren't caught taking the pee in the first place, when all they were trying to do was capture driving data - trust goes both ways, if you can't trust people you employ then its better off if they are gone.
Sure, but "they must take the route supplied and all and any deviations are monitored and reported". Damn!

I do know of someone who had a tracker put in their van when the company got wind of a few instances of missed customer appointments. It tracked them to various golf clubs around the country :D Now that IS taking the pee :cry:
 
Oh don't get me wrong, I think they're funky looking things and I wouldn't mind one as a second car, but we do 80 miles a day commuting and don't have home charging which rules it out unfortunately. I believe the range is 200 miles or so.

We've gotten a lot more aggressive with saving for a mortgage though, so hopefully in the next year or two we can tool up properly and I can get an EV and a honking big V8 for the weekends and road trips.
Definitely the way forward. I have a mortgage (well two with my BTL flat), an EV and a E92 M3 V8. Who’d have thought you’d aspire to be me xxx

Edit. Not a penny from anyone else…
 
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Definitely the way forward. I have a mortgage (well two with my BTL flat), an EV and a E92 M3 V8. Who’d have thought you’d aspire to be me xxx

Certainly not me :D

Unfortunately neither of us have parents or inheritances so we're starting with a "clean sheet" so to speak. We're making it work but it just takes a bit longer than most.
 
Sure, but "they must take the route supplied and all and any deviations are monitored and reported". Damn!

I do know of someone who had a tracker put in their van when the company got wind of a few instances of missed customer appointments. It tracked them to various golf clubs around the country :D Now that IS taking the pee :cry:

Correction, taking the Tee...
 
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