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Tesla charges 41p peak and 22p off peak for Tesla cars

Here's what is showing on my app

I was comparing between apps and it was at max 3p in my area. If you have a Tesla does it show you cheaper prices in the app?

I would roughly get similar pricing with a polestar charge or Tesla subscription would I not?

Why would anyone use other fast charging…I’m trying to shift some of our work fleet onto electric cars and it’s a hard sell to the higher ups. We got a cheap Buzz in to trial and whilst the car is brilliant the fast charging on Electroverse is terribly expensive. If colleagues had home chargers it’s a different story as they refund straight to them.

I’m just trying to get my head around the most cost efficient way for summer travelling so was always going to subscribe to polestar charge and use Superchargers the best I can. I just hope by that point I can filter the car to just superchargers!
 
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I was comparing between apps and it was at max 3p in my area. If you have a Tesla does it show you cheaper prices in the app?

I would roughly get similar pricing with a polestar charge or Tesla subscription would I not?

Why would anyone use other fast charging…I’m trying to shift some of our work fleet onto electric cars and it’s a hard sell to the higher ups. We got a cheap Buzz in to trial and whilst the car is brilliant the fast charging on Electroverse is terribly expensive. If colleagues had home chargers it’s a different story as they refund straight to them.

I’m just trying to get my head around the most cost efficient way for summer travelling so was always going to subscribe to polestar charge and use Superchargers the best I can. I just hope by that point I can filter the car to just superchargers!
The idea is to charge at home or work. Only using fast charging isn't a great idea so you'd be better off not switching

Not sure how long you've had your EV but sounds like you're getting really obsessed with pricing which isn't the right thing to do if all you need it for is the odd journey
 
The idea is to charge at home or work. Only using fast charging isn't a great idea so you'd be better off not switching

Not sure how long you've had your EV but sounds like you're getting really obsessed with pricing which isn't the right thing to do if all you need it for is the odd journey
Oh, I don’t use fast charging but when the time comes when I need to in anger when away from home/work it’s nice to understand the cheapest way to do so.

EV life since September.
 
Why would anyone use other fast charging…

Because all public charging is obscenely and prohibitively expensive compared to charging at home at (roughly) 7p or 8p per kWh, so on the very odd occasion I have to do it I just go for the fastest one local to where I am whatever the cost.

It’s so infrequent that it’s minuscule compared to money saved over diesel in the long run so I just go to the fastest one available.

If you have to use public charging a lot just to get by, then EV ownership may not yet be entirely suitable for you or your business.

As always, your personal situation will be very particular.
 
Because all public charging is obscenely and prohibitively expensive compared to charging at home at (roughly) 7p or 8p per kWh, so on the very odd occasion I have to do it I just go for the fastest one local to where I am whatever the cost.

It’s so infrequent that it’s minuscule compared to money saved over diesel in the long run so I just go to the fastest one available.

If you have to use public charging a lot just to get by, then EV ownership may not yet be entirely suitable for you or your business.

As always, your personal situation will be very particular.

Yeah, my home is at 7.5p off peak...I export at 16.5p and have a battery connected to the house that charges overnight also. I shouldn't sweat the pennies but sometimes the fast charging is extortionate so when it has to be used it's nice to know the caveats. You're right though when compared to filling up an ICE.

Electroverse with home chargers is the ideal scenario for the company I work for with the auto reimbursement.

Looking forward to some summer months to see what the range improvements are like! I'm currently charging when I reach 20-30% and up to 80%, I will do a full sweep charge from around 10% to full every month or couple of months to make sure BMS calibration happens. I'm lead to believe cell calibration only happens above 80%? Is this all too nerdy to even worry/obsess about?
 
Yeah, my home is at 7.5p off peak...I export at 16.5p and have a battery connected to the house that charges overnight also. I shouldn't sweat the pennies but sometimes the fast charging is extortionate so when it has to be used it's nice to know the caveats. You're right though when compared to filling up an ICE.

Electroverse with home chargers is the ideal scenario for the company I work for with the auto reimbursement.

Looking forward to some summer months to see what the range improvements are like! I'm currently charging when I reach 20-30% and up to 80%, I will do a full sweep charge from around 10% to full every month or couple of months to make sure BMS calibration happens. I'm lead to believe cell calibration only happens above 80%? Is this all too nerdy to even worry/obsess about?
Unless you're personally owning it for life and need to eke out every last bit of battery life then it's way too much to be worrying about
 
Yeah, my home is at 7.5p off peak...I export at 16.5p and have a battery connected to the house that charges overnight also.
Just to warn you that eon has nerfed their export tariff for TOU users on next drive. when your current SEG contract expires eon will pay only 6p/kwh whilst you are on next drive.
would suggest you check when your current SEG contract ends and diarise a move away from eon
 
I'm currently charging when I reach 20-30% and up to 80%
actually smaller charges have less battery wear
so for example a single 30-80% charge is actually more detrimental to battery health than 5x 50-60% charges, even though numerically both only charged 50% of the battery capacity
 
Just to warn you that eon has nerfed their export tariff for TOU users on next drive. when your current SEG contract expires eon will pay only 6p/kwh whilst you are on next drive.
would suggest you check when your current SEG contract ends and diarise a move away from eon
I locked in a few days before they changed it! It came up on the GivEnergy forums so was perplexed when someone mentioned it as I'd only just had my renewal. Going to make the most of the export this year and dump the battery into the grid to make the most of it. SEG was hard enough to get in the first place so begrudge moving that around...

So, with the above, me charging at home every day with the 12% I use of the battery a day would be less damaging to the battery...hmmm. 68-80% it is then! :D
 
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I locked in a few days before they changed it! It came up on the GivEnergy forums so was perplexed when someone mentioned it as I'd only just had my renewal. Going to make the most of the export this year and dump the battery into the grid to make the most of it. SEG was hard enough to get in the first place so begrudge moving that around...
just be careful with dumping too much too
eon don't like to pay more than what the MCS certificate shows

when you do switch to octopus, i have a referral code for £50 each :D

So, with the above, me charging at home every day with the 12% I use of the battery a day would be less damaging to the battery...hmmm. 68-80% it is then! :D
if you don't use much leccy daily then set the max charge to 70% for even more battery longevity :cry:
(basically what i do too, as i only use 9-10% daily)
 
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I wouldn’t worry about battery longevity, it’s got buffers built into it already and it has a 10 year warranty (pretty sure GivEnergy is unlimited cycles, either way it will be more than one cycle per day for 10 years).

By the time the battery is out of warranty, its replacement will be far cheaper, have more capacity, be half the size and be able to charge/discharge at twice the rate.

Even my GivEnergy all in one which is only 2 years old looks very ‘legacy’ in terms of its capabilities and cost a lot more than what I can replace it for today. In another 8 years, it will be worth basically scrap value even if it still worked at 80-90% capacity.
 
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