EV general discussion

[ICDP]

to each their own but if I am planning a long journey we'll beyond the range of my car I always look for DC charging with a good amount of chargers rather than a small handful of super fast ones anyway. admittedly I am biased as my car only chargers at 100kw anyway (and 100kw is about as genuine as the alleged range of it as well)

but even if my car supported the fastest charging available personally I would still look for large numbers of charge points rather than a couple of mega fast ones.
choice is good I guess but the really big numbers sounds almost like willy waving to me .

Yeah it seems to be a psychological case of fastest is always better. But the reality is how many people absolutely need to move on in 15 minutes or less. There is a reason the majority of EVs on the market seem to target the 30 minute 10% - 80% charging curve.

It’s an old hangover from fossil fuel car ownership. This concept that “I won’t let a car dictate how long I have to wait”. Then they go get lunch for 30 - 40 minutes with the family and most EVs would have added ~140+ miles of range in that time. Even the slower charging ones will add ~100 miles.

 

[jpaul]

byd are planning a tesla supercharger face-off with similarly subsidised stations for their flock -
but until they have a saloon hatch/estate my piggy-bank is closed, even though they ring me every couple of months.

surprising fair-trading legislation don't have more to say with such cross-subsidy by other users & market share gain strategies...
I mean if BMW had a deal with shell for cut price fuel for owners ?

 

[RobPot]

What do you guys think of the Volvo EX30?

It's a nice car to drive and I like the interior. I've been waiting for the battery modules to be replaced since the safety recall announced last December, so limited to charging to 70%.

 

[chanjy]

It's a nice car to drive and I like the interior. I've been waiting for the battery modules to be replaced since the safety recall announced last December, so limited to charging to 70%.

Have they fixed all the software glitches yet? It looked like a great car when it came out although there’s been so many news ones since that it’ll the competition has got a lot tougher I feel

 

[chanjy]

byd are planning a tesla supercharger face-off with similarly subsidised stations for their flock -
but until they have a saloon hatch/estate my piggy-bank is closed, even though they ring me every couple of months.

surprising fair-trading legislation don't have more to say with such cross-subsidy by other users & market share gain strategies...
I mean if BMW had a deal with shell for cut price fuel for owners ?

You must have missed the anti dumping tariffs over the last few years. Check that with your favourite AI tool

Your piggy bank will never open just be honest about it?

 

[Kenai]

but until they have a saloon hatch/estate my piggy-bank is closed

We all know you wouldn't buy one anyway, even if they released your perfect car

 

[Journey]

but until they have a saloon hatch/estate my piggy-bank is closed, even though they ring me every couple of months.

You should just ask them to take them off your mailing/contact list, or alternatively tell them to read your input on this thread and they'll realise you don't even have a piggy bank, well not of money, just baseless opinions.

 

[RobPot]

Have they fixed all the software glitches yet? It looked like a great car when it came out although there’s been so many news ones since that it’ll the competition has got a lot tougher I feel

The software when it first came out was terrible. We've had a number of updates over the last two years, and about to get 2.01 at the end of the month, and it has improved a lot. Perhaps not the best but perfectly useable.
I also haven't found the single central screen an issue - I look out of the window more!

 

[ubersonic]

It’s all about where they can get grid capacity these days. Back when Tesla first started, grid was less of an issue, it was convincing hosts to hand over areas of their carpark for a decade plus.

All UK CPOs already struggle to get grid capacity where drivers want it. BYD will be no different.

These chargers need to the buffered out with batteries because they’ll not get the grid to support them. They will not be cheap unless they choose to run it on a subsidised basis.

Anyone who has charged at Cornwall services will know that once the buffer is gone, they’ll be capped by whatever grid speed they have at that location.

Thanks, so it seems like it's going to be many years until high power chargers become commonplace then

Still, they are also promising their new EVs will have 600 miles of range, so even if both promises miss the mark the combination of better charging infrastructure and better ranges should work together to put an EV within my reach

 

[Journey]

Thanks, so it seems like it's going to be many years until high power chargers become commonplace then

Still, they are also promising their new EVs will have 600 miles of range, so even if both promises miss the mark the combination of better charging infrastructure and better ranges should work together to put an EV within my reach

Isn't one of the more modern PHEV's a good fit for you then, or do you not do many trips under 60 miles?

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Thanks, so it seems like it's going to be many years until high power chargers become commonplace then

Still, they are also promising their new EVs will have 600 miles of range, so even if both promises miss the mark the combination of better charging infrastructure and better ranges should work together to put an EV within my reach

There are already lots of high powered chargers around.

The other benefit of BYD flash charging is that they can hold their charge rate on a ‘regular’ 300-400kw charger for a long time adding a huge amount of range in 10-15 mins.

Genuine question, why 600 miles of range? That’s London to Inverness in a single charge or 10 hours driving.

 

[m4rmite]

Genuine question, why 600 miles of range? That’s London to Inverness in a single charge or 10 hours driving.

I'm guessing because it was always 500 miles that ice drivers quoted as the "I'll buy one when" target, now that's been done it's moved to 600 miles

 

[Journey]

I'm guessing because it was always 500 miles that ice drivers quoted as the "I'll buy one when" target,

Isn't there a song about that?

"Oh I would drive 500 miles,and I would drive 500 more just to avoid stopping to refuel my car?

 

[tamzzy]

Only 500 miles? Weaksauce...