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OK, Looks like I'm getting a Model Y then......

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Seems like there are loads of 2023 ish LR AWD models available from Tesla on 40k miles ish for £28k ish. That'll do.
yeah you'd want a late 23 or a 73 model Y, these have the fixed (read, softer) suspension that aren't as crashy as the originals.
also make sure it has the parcel shelf - the older ones did not come with the parcel shelf and the interior noise was pretty bad without it
if you do get a 73 model Y, check that it comes with Hardware 4, rather than Hardware 3 (better processing power, cameras, autopilot etc)
also the tesla mileage warranty ends at 50k if it was delivered before 1st jan 2024, after jan 2024 it was increased to 60k
 
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Big drive today down to Andover and back delivering a PC and I finally saw another GT on the road. It was on the back of a recovery lorry with a wheel missing but it still counts. Lol
 
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From a technical standpoint I do think the use case where PHEV is the best fit is limited tbf. You have to do a combination of a lot of short trips and quite a lot of long trips as well to make PHEV the optimal solution.
You have described our situation. Retired, most trips are local but happy to run ICE when we need 40+ miles such as holidays. The PHEV Ionic (2019) works for us.
 
You have described our situation. Retired, most trips are local but happy to run ICE when we need 40+ miles such as holidays. The PHEV Ionic (2019) works for us.
So why wouldn't/doesn't the BEV version offer a better proposition if you are retired, as great deal of people cite stopping and charging times being the biggest draw back due to limited free time.
 
Spoke to the mrs at length about EVs and showed her some models.

Mrs - "I like the Model Y"
Me - "OK, but what about this EQC, looks really nice"
Mrs - "Hmm, it has a silly face. I like the Model Y"
Me - "Fair, how about this EV6. They are really good"
Mrs- "Ugh. Kia. My dad had a Kia. Jenny has a Model Y. She really likes it"
Me - "Yes, I know, and Jenny won't shut up about it. How about a BMW iX? They drive really well"
Mrs - "I like the Model Y"

OK, Looks like I'm getting a Model Y then......
Seems like there are loads of 2023 ish LR AWD models available from Tesla on 40k miles ish for £28k ish. That'll do.

The model Y is one of the ugliest cars on the road. And the stigma.
 
So why wouldn't/doesn't the BEV version offer a better proposition if you are retired, as great deal of people cite stopping and charging times being the biggest draw back due to limited free time.
Retired, most trips are local but happy to run ICE when we need 40+ miles such as holidays. The PHEV Ionic (2019) works for us.
Already answered, no? The PHEV EV range is sufficient most of the time and they are happy to run on petrol when they do go on longer trips.

Is running a car with a much bigger battery than is required for the vast majority of the time really a better proposition?
 
Already answered, no? The PHEV EV range is sufficient most of the time and they are happy to run on petrol when they do go on longer trips.

Is running a car with a much bigger battery than is required for the vast majority of the time really a better proposition?
Both sides of the argument are valid, why have a tank full of fuel sitting around if you are not using it, and constantly having to top up a small battery? Is running a car with an entire other power train worth it for a few longer trips/holidays a year?
 
Spoke to the mrs at length about EVs and showed her some models.

Mrs - "I like the Model Y"
Me - "OK, but what about this EQC, looks really nice"
Mrs - "Hmm, it has a silly face. I like the Model Y"
Me - "Fair, how about this EV6. They are really good"
Mrs- "Ugh. Kia. My dad had a Kia. Jenny has a Model Y. She really likes it"
Me - "Yes, I know, and Jenny won't shut up about it. How about a BMW iX? They drive really well"
Mrs - "I like the Model Y"

OK, Looks like I'm getting a Model Y then......
Seems like there are loads of 2023 ish LR AWD models available from Tesla on 40k miles ish for £28k ish. That'll do.

Jenny is @tamzzy isn't she?
 
Both sides of the argument are valid, why have a tank full of fuel sitting around if you are not using it, and constantly having to top up a small battery? Is running a car with an entire other power train worth it for a few longer trips/holidays a year?
Who says the fuel tank has to kept full? Constantly topping up the battery is no issue, park on the drive, plug it in, unplug it next time you go out. Is it worth having the flexibility to not bother planning charge stops ahead? For some people, yes.

Baffles me why some people are so vehemently anti PHEV when they serve a perfectly reasonable purpose for some people :p
 
Who says the fuel tank has to kept full? Constantly topping up the battery is no issue, park on the drive, plug it in, unplug it next time you go out. Is it worth having the flexibility to not bother planning charge stops ahead? For some people, yes.

Baffles me why some people are so vehemently anti PHEV when they serve a perfectly reasonable purpose for some people :p
I am not against it at all. I think the Ioniq PHEV is a great car, especially considering it only has an 8.9kWh useable battery. Weird thing is it is (or was until prices went up a lot on BEV) more expensive, so you could get the better (IMHO) version of the car for less money, and to some extent it looks like you could sell a 19-plate PHEV version and get a 21/22 plated BEV and maybe even have money left over (thanks UBER drivers).

Also who plans these days? Are you living in 2019 still?
 
Also who plans these days? Are you living in 2019 still?
It was only yesterday someone in this thread was planning where they could go to charge during a trip from Bristol to Bodmin :p

The last 'long trip' I did was Southampton to Fort William, here, there and everywhere whilst there, down to Lake District and again here there and everywhere, then Snowdonia, then through Wales etc. and there's no chance I'd be doing that without knowing where and when I could charge the car reliably :p
 
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The last 'long trip' I did was Southampton to Fort William, here, there and everywhere whilst there, down to Lake District and again here there and everywhere, then Snowdonia, then through Wales etc. and there's no chance I'd be doing that without knowing where and when I could charge the car reliably :p
That must've been quite the expensive trip, irrespective of EV charging! :p
 
It was only yesterday someone in this thread was planning where they could go to charge during a trip from Bristol to Bodmin :p

The last 'long trip' I did was Southampton to Fort William, here, there and everywhere whilst there, down to Lake District and again here there and everywhere, then Snowdonia, then through Wales etc. and there's no chance I'd be doing that without knowing where and when I could charge the car reliably :p
So because one person ask it means everyone has to plan? Everyone is new at something once.

I did a similar trip in 2020, from West Mids, via Lake district, to Glencoe, Fort William, back down through Scotland down the East coast of England and back across Yorkshire, down back to Worcestershire and then home again, in my apparently crappy Ioniq, I did plan, but don't think I would bother now as I have 7 years of using EV's under my belt and the charging network is much more mature.
 
That must've been quite the expensive trip, irrespective of EV charging! :p
I spent £20 on a CPS card in 2020, and one charge in Ambleside that was about £15, and an Instavolt near Sheffield for about £20 and we did 1200+ miles. On the same trip now I would just use Tesla SC or Ionity with subscription.
 
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