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is that offer open to me if I start talking about them? ;)

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Back on topic, whats the current best EV with decent (real world) range for under £20k then? Don't want a Tesla though, it may be the best but it's too sterile inside and I personally can't stand Musk so that's enough to put me off.
See below, don't bother.
Spend £15-20k on a second hand EV, another £1k on a charger then energy prices go up, government introduces yet more taxes in a year or so, to the point where I'd be no better off having over over my 3L BMW.
If you only do 7000 miles a year don't bother, just stick with what you have until it totally breaks, after all even if you get 30 MPG, you are only spending £1900 a year running proper vPower etc. in your M140i, and it is cheap an easy to service with little to no running costs other than an MOT.

Even if you run it for another 10 years with 3% annual increase in fuel costs it'll only be £22,000 in fuel, and again very little in repairs or running costs. Given you cannot charge at home you wouldn't save anything really on running costs, as you'll end up paying £0.92pkWh at Gridserve which would cost you ~£2150 per year at 3mpkWh, you also have £200 a year VED and 3p per mile tax from 2028, so another £210 per year.
 
hmmmm I am in a quandary. I have just been offered a 2019 Tesla model x 7 seater P100 ludicrous edition off a mate. 75k miles but needs the Aircon repaired. I have been toying with the idea of insuring my ipace and be a private hire taxi driver (I was made redundant a while back).... but a Tesla model x with 7 seats could be an event better solution.
anyone here have a similar model x and what do you think of it if so. it's a bit overkill for a taxi... not sure I would need the ludicrous button much. gonna phone my insurance tomorrow I can't imagine it will be cheap to insure but it may be too good an offer to pass up
 
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As I said, I can charge at home.

Either way, I'll keep an eye out, see what happens in the coming months and if my office days increase, will probably reconsider.

Probably still not worth it, you'll have to spend £20k on a new to you car, insurance will be higher, VED will be higher, charger will set you back £1000 (you lose it if you move house), then again at 3mpkWh and the new normal of 30pkWh (as assume you'd stick with a normal tariff?) then you are at £700 a year on electricity, so in real terms you might be a few hundred a year better off, but in a car you don't really want. As I keep being told why compromise, just stick with what you like, and you can't take money with you!
 
Probably still not worth it, you'll have to spend £20k on a new to you car, insurance will be higher, VED will be higher, charger will set you back £1000 (you lose it if you move house), then again at 3mpkWh and the new normal of 30pkWh (as assume you'd stick with a normal tariff?) then you are at £700 a year on electricity, so in real terms you might be a few hundred a year better off, but in a car you don't really want. As I keep being told why compromise, just stick with what you like, and you can't take money with you!
Why will insurance be higher, and why normal tariff?
I may have missed that he drives a vw up.
 
Why will insurance be higher, and why normal tariff?
I may have missed that he drives a vw up.
A normal tariff as they indicated they didn't want to suffer inconveniences, and having to load shift to offset a day rate that would be as much as 6pkWh or higher, which is £240+ extra per year on an average 4000kWh home usage per year. If you end up at 3.5mpkWh average then your electricity costs are down to £600 for 7,000 miles. At 8.5pkWh EV tariff then you are at £170+£240 (for the 6p unit increase) so £410 not including the extra standing charge, I doubt they are that bothered about saving £150-180 per year.

Everyone knows for a fact insurance on an EV is more expensive, ask jpaul he's had more EV's (insurance quotes) than anyone.
 
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hmmmm I am in a quandary. I have just been offered a 2019 Tesla model x 7 seater P100 ludicrous edition off a mate. 75k miles but needs the Aircon repaired. I have been toying with the idea of insuring my ipace and be a private hire taxi driver (I was made redundant a while back).... but a Tesla model x with 7 seats could be an event better solution.
anyone here have a similar model x and what do you think of it if so. it's a bit overkill for a taxi... not sure I would need the ludicrous button much. gonna phone my insurance tomorrow I can't imagine it will be cheap to insure but it may be too good an offer to pass up

As much as I like the X, they are expensive if they break and you don’t know your way around the spanner’s.

Outside of the silly doors, they are not super complex but things like air suspension struts are not cheap if you are paying ga rage rates and parts prices, if they will even touch it in the first place.
 
I wouldn't be so sure. I paid less swapping my 440i (£1200) for a model 3 LR AWD (£800).
Stop coming in here with your version of the facts, you just love ****** on me from a great height. I've asked Trump you are wrong! :rolleyes:

EDIT: Also I heard you live in a Ghetto, so you got a cheaper price as the Tesla is basically mobile CCTV.
 
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