Even Augustus Gloop ain't safe (Dahl being censored)
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If it was the government pushing this then yes, I'd agree it was a waste. But it's not about adding to society, it's about making lots more monies
On that we agree. But framing it as "it's the right thing to do" is quite frankly poppycock.
Being enormously fat, or white with fear or whatever is hardly offensive - I mean is the UK really so sensitive and pathetic as a nation that a book written for kids which uses very descriptive language to tap into the imagination of children is now deemed offensive or inappropriate?
It appears so, yes. We deem many things inappropriate for children, these are often revised with the times. I don't see the big deal in this at all 
Children are still going to read his work and are less likely to learn inappropriate behaviour. What's the ish?
Children are still going to read his work and are less likely to learn inappropriate behaviour. What's the ish?
It appears so, yes. We deem many things inappropriate for children, these are often revised with the times. I don't see the big deal in this at all
Children are still going to read his work and are less likely to learn inappropriate behaviour. What's the ish?
Look, just cos dlockers kid is now making lampshades out of slave skin after reading Charlie and the chocolate factory doesn't mean all kids are going to do it.
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Look how much publicity this is getting, of course it's to drive sales.
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It appears so, yes. We deem many things inappropriate for children, these are often revised with the times. I don't see the big deal in this at all
Children are still going to read his work and are less likely to learn inappropriate behaviour. What's the ish?
Most children read an array of books - I'd agree with you if all they read were Enid Blyton / Dhal etc... as it would give a skewed perspective, but most children read dozens of books from different authors etc.. It's important for them to be exposed to different side of things and some historical texts that may no longer be "common".
There's no inappropriate behaviour in the books - if you child misbehaves is not because of a few words in a books, it's down to you as a parent really.
It's really simple. If you want to limit the chances of your kid turning out to be a top tier douche then keep them the hell away from social media and gutter press publications.
Monitor their online usage.
Above all spend time with them. Actual time with them. Not you sat on your phone or watching TV whilst they're in your vicinity.
Rewriting Spot the Dog or Harry Potter ain't going to change a thing for them.
Monitor their online usage.
Above all spend time with them. Actual time with them. Not you sat on your phone or watching TV whilst they're in your vicinity.
Rewriting Spot the Dog or Harry Potter ain't going to change a thing for them.
Easier for some
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H Rider Haggard and RL Stevenson are both still in print. The Strange Case of Jekyll and Hyde is a fantastic read.
I get why people might not like Rider Haggard's worldview, but is Stevenson now seen as "bad" in some way?
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100% - child's behaviours are down to parenting, books help create creative and critical thinking and is vital for children.
Social media and trash media is the thing that will cause them to become inappropriate, and the echo chambers of the online world.
Weekends and evenings that's all we do with ours, spend time with them. We're not on our phones, we talk, play, read together in the evenings. Weekends we go out, play, do sports, build lego, and yes, do watch some movies together - it's so important to be present with your kids, they'll learn to build the confidence and interest in the world around them.
If you do all that, a few bad words in a book won't do them any harm, it'll help them flourish and grow as interesting individuals.
public opinion was against the tearing down of the statues, but, for some reason activists were not convicted,
publishers are now self-censoring under the perception that public supports that and that public thinks children would genuinely normalise behaviour expressed in dahls books,
(as said) we aren't sending children out to work anymore, despite Dicken's works.
publishers are now self-censoring under the perception that public supports that and that public thinks children would genuinely normalise behaviour expressed in dahls books,
(as said) we aren't sending children out to work anymore, despite Dicken's works.
That's the point. The intent of Willy Wonka was actually to call out disability fraud and state scroungers. His work shy bone idol grandpa was soon to jump out of bed when he realised something fun was on the cards.
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Yeah, they should have changed it so that Charlie's mother has a mental breakdown and beats Grandpa to death when she realises he can dance and move even though she's been supporting them for years.
Or might drive them away if parents are aware of the censoring and look for older copies
It appears so, yes. We deem many things inappropriate for children, these are often revised with the times. I don't see the big deal in this at all
Children are still going to read his work and are less likely to learn inappropriate behaviour. What's the ish?
The issue is that none of this is teaching inappropriate behaviour and your job as a parent is to talk to your children and parent them if they are taking bad messages from childrens books. Children are children and yet we are treating them as if they are scholars who sit around their tiny tables debating if the use of the word black invokes negative emotions and connotations when they read it.
If you want to do something that actually helps children, read to them. Talk to them. Engage with them. If your children turn out to be bigoted or ****** human beings that probably not because they read a completely innocuous word in a childrens book.
Not necessarily. If you're there with them when something 'inappropriate' comes up then you can explain it to them and what's wrong with it.
Well, within limits of course. Not sure you can really explain 2 girls 1 cup.
Whats funny is that despite all the huffing and puffing, children and people in general are just as ****** as ever. In some schools kids get bullied for being trans and in others they get bullied for not parroting the current insane opinion on being trans. Kids are bloody awful and social media is a horrible thing that I thank my lucky stars wasn't about when I was younger.
We live in a weird time where people will wish someone death with a straight face because they dared suggest that calling someone by the wrong pronoun isn't jail worthy. Where people preach inclusivity and understanding yet have none to give to anyone who doesn't agree with their weird worldview.
Childrens books are fine as they are. If you don't like a book, don't buy it for your kids. If you really want you could go full nutter and cross out all the mean words and replace them with nice ones that make you feel like you are killing it as a parent. "Little Timmy will have to ask the teach what the word fat means because he will never have to see it".
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Agreed. A lot of people that have kids (not inferring anyone in this thread) seem to not realise that you are entirely responsible for their behaviours, and upbringing and actually have to spend time with them and teach them things.
Of course we want to protect our children, but the world is not a rosy perfect place, and learning to deal with difficult things builds resilience.