Even Augustus Gloop ain't safe (Dahl being censored)

i don’t think anyone would disagree with that, the question is though, are those works of art suitable for children, and as such, should the rights holder change them in order to continue selling them in the numbers that they do.

That's for their parents to decide.
 
This sounds exactly like the "he only shot up his school because he played Call of Duty" argument :cry:


Nobody is preventing current writers from writing books which reflect current attitudes :confused:



Are you suggesting that those adults are wrong? What harm exactly did it cause them?

I think most people would agree that call of duty is unsuitable for young children for precisely the reason I’m saying though wouldn’t they?

you’re right, nobody is stopping anyone.

and I’m suggesting that people who think gollywogs should still be on marmalade jars have been harmed in exactly the way I‘m talking about.
 
One is rooted in commercial economics, the other in forceful oppression.


Do people really think like this :confused:

And what do think the reasoning is behind it being a commercial decision is, given that the vast majority of people could'nt give a toss if Dahl's books are (in the opinion of a tiny minority) 'problematic'. I've read all of them - they are harmless and I'd like my son to be able to enjoy them the same way I did.

Like I said - its just a matter of degree.

Put it away

Internet gold star for this though.
 
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And what do think the reasoning is behind it being a commercial decision is, given that the vast majority of people could'nt give a toss if Dahl's books are (in the opinion of a tiny minority) 'problematic'. I've read all of them - they are harmless and I'd like my son to be able to enjoy them the same way I did.

what do you think it is? And if it’s such a tiny minority (I’m not saying it isn’t) why Do you think the publishers are doing this?

it’s clearly not in case they cause offence, because publishers don’t give a toss about that if it makes them money.
 
And what do think the reasoning is behind it being a commercial decision is, given that the vast majority of people could'nt give a toss if Dahl's books are (in the opinion of a tiny minority) 'problematic'. I've read all of them - they are harmless and I'd like my son to be able to enjoy them the same way I did.
:confused: I thought commercial economics was quite succinct, perhaps you can explain your thoughts?
 
:confused: I thought commercial economics was quite succinct, perhaps you can explain your thoughts?

my guess is something along the lines of the publishers getting a few stern emails from some do-gooder leftist tree-huggers so they’ve decided to alter their multi-million pound product out of fear of escalation.
 
what do you think it is? And if it’s such a tiny minority (I’m not saying it isn’t) why Do you think the publishers are doing this?

it’s clearly not in case they cause offence, because publishers don’t give a toss about that if it makes them money.

Publishers clearly do care about causing offence. Or at least the wrong kind of offence. Without de-railing the thread there are clearly whole topics in public discourse in which it is clearly dangerous to hold what I would call a reasonable view (ie one held by the vast majority of people).
 
Publishers clearly do care about causing offence. Or at least the wrong kind of offence. Without de-railing the thread there are clearly whole topics in public discourse in which it is clearly dangerous to hold what I would call a reasonable view (ie one held by the vast majority of people).

publishers only care about causing offence with regard to the bottom line. That’s how all commercial business operates.

it’s nothing to do with zeitgeist or prevailing attitudes. It’s to do with sales.
 
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:confused: I thought commercial economics was quite succinct, perhaps you can explain your thoughts?
my guess is something along the lines of the publishers getting a few stern emails from some do-gooder leftist tree-huggers so they’ve decided to alter their multi-million pound product out of fear of escalation.

And then we move onto the next book, and the next book, and - I tell you what - why don't we just burn the books instead, it will be easier in the long run.

Do you see where I'm going with this.
 
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And then we move onto the next book, and the next book, and - I tell you what - why don't we just burn the books instead, it will be easier in the long run.

Do you see where I'm going with this.

no, not really.

perhaps instead you want to force a company to keep producing a product against their will because you like it the way it is?

are you a communist?
 
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I think most people would agree that call of duty is unsuitable for young children for precisely the reason I’m saying though wouldn’t they?

I'm not talking about young children, there are plenty of teens and young adults being violent because of films and video games

and I’m suggesting that people who think gollywogs should still be on marmalade jars have been harmed in exactly the way I‘m talking about.

I'm not sure there's as much overlap as you're insinuating :cry:
 
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my guess is something along the lines of the publishers getting a few stern emails from some do-gooder leftist tree-huggers so they’ve decided to alter their multi-million pound product out of fear of escalation.
Books get revised all the time to represent what is 'acceptable'. You know that right?
 
Surely the elephant in the room here is that a lot of Roald Dahl’s views and opinions were offensive through the lens of the 1970s let alone today, despite the efforts of his family to rehabilitate his image. Without this, I suspect modern editors would be a little less drastic.

I see zero connection between Roald Dahl despising Israel and modern editors erasing every use of the adjectives "fat" and "skinny" and "black".
 
no, not really.

perhaps instead you want to force a company to keep producing a product against their will because you like it the way it is?

are you a communist?
a) Try harder then

b) Well done for missing the point that the publisher is, in reality, being forced to change a product against their will.

c) Yes No Does it make a difference. Are you?
 
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