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EVGA Pascal cards hotspot problem

jonathan_phang said:
I can't tell either. Between all the models, and EVGA forums and Reddit threads, theres a real pot of information that makes it hard to get to the truth. Put a dampner on my weekend tbh.
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Your card has a 3 year warranty, and EVGA supposedly provide a very good RMA service. If your card is working OK, then I wouldn't worry about it too much. Wait and see if EVGA provide any further information and try to enjoy your weekend.
 
Dervious said:
Your card has a 3 year warranty, and EVGA supposedly provide a very good RMA service. If your card is working OK, then I wouldn't worry about it too much. Wait and see if EVGA provide any further information and try to enjoy your weekend.
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I still think they have a good RMA service (and thats why I chose this brand) but its the risk (albeit low) that this could cause wider damage and danger that is the worry. It might just be a bit of snowballing paranoia, but I don't want anything catching fire. If it was just about a part dying then I'm ok with that.

As you say, all is fine, lets see what happens.
 
Simon Belmont said:
It does get very hot, but I haven't tested for temps. Maybe I should run heaven for a few hours.
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I wouldn't worry unduly if you haven't been having the black screens and crashing. My card appears hot to the touch under heavy load, it's pretty normal. Core temps never exceed 64/65deg though.
 
Sipha said:
Well have you been experiencing the issues mentioned ?
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This is part of the confusion. There are 2 issues. A blackscreening/fan problem and a heat/combustion one. From the post I linked to from EVGA support, they are 2 separate problems.

The blackscreening appears to be linked to the date of card, ie. Something was changed to prevent this. I haven't seen this problem, so that's great. The second is to do with heat from inadequately dissipated heat to the VRAM/VRMs. Now there is no heat monitoring to these parts, and I dont happen to have access to a thermal camera of sorts.

I've not experienced anything related to that heat, however, that doesn't mean it won't/can't happen. Which is the worrying part. Maybe down the line my cooling/case airflow is less, maybe it takes longer to manifest, but the fact it hasn't happened isn't enough to keep be happy.

One of those things that if it does happen, I'll kick myself for not doing something earlier. Especially if it somehow takes other parts with it.
 
jonathan_phang said:
One of those things that if it does happen, I'll kick myself for not doing something earlier. Especially if it somehow takes other parts with it.
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I'd carry on using your PC, but don't leave it unattended, especially if your graphics card is under load. That's probably good advice for anyone using any high end card.

At this point it seems that there are only a few reported incidents of these cards catching fire. Obviously that's a very serious issue, but even one of these cards does overheat and "burn out", the chances of the fire spreading are quite low.

Most electrical items carry a risk of fire if something goes wrong. Luckily PCBs and components are usually made from non or low flammable materials, so if a component such as a resistor, transistor, IC etc overheats there will often be a puff of smoke and maybe a small flame prior to the item shutting down.
 
jonathan_phang said:
This link here is probably has the most common sense replys regarding this situation. Some decent honest answers in here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/58pisc/statement_regarding_1080_ftw_vrmmem_temps/
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Agreed. It's easy to become overly concerned in cases such as this. At the moment there doesn't seem to be many reported problems, but of course that may change.

What is suprising is how EVGA (and other card manufacturers) will allow, or in this case encourage customers to remove heatsinks from their graphics cards, but others void warranties if the card is tampered with. I own a Palit card and it has warranty stickers on the screws. Having read reports of poor thermal paste application by some manufacturers, you would think that allowing customers to re-apply thermal paste might lead to a lower failure rate.
 
My only concern in all of this fiasco is if anything else in my system is damaged if the worst should happen. If the card just dies i'm in no way bothered as my place of work are partners with EVGA.

I still think its a ridiculous move by EVGA though to expect customers to take apart a £400+ item and risk damaging it beyond repair and to be told by them it is then not covered due to human error. Personally i have no problem doing it myself as i have put many water blocks on various cards at work.

I know that some people are going to say that someone not competent enough shouldn't even attempt it themselves but there will always be someone that will.

In my opinion manufacturers would be better redesigning the coolers and doing recalls. But i doubt that's going to happen any time soon. I think its all a really bad state of affairs over so called premium products.

EDIT: Just done a Serial check on mine and it shipped on the 12/10/2016. So in theory it should be clear of the Black screen issue/100% fan speed bugs being reported. But there is still the chance of it just committing suicide...
 
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Yeah, I got the EVGA 1080 FTW at the end of august. So I'm wondering whether my card is going to break.

I'd rather it run cooler than hotter that's why I have a custom fan profile with the fan running all the time. So I'm not sure whether I'll do the modification, I hate having to apply thermal paste can never be sure I've done it right.
 
In terms of being a fire hazard, worried as I am it's highly unlikely to do any damage beyond blowing a few onboard GPU components (sparks, some smoke) and tripping the PSU.

This is nowhere near as dangerous as a duff mobile phone battery venting flames. Still, I'd feel happier knowing I'm not sitting on a proverbial time bomb...or two.
 
Drollic said:
What's Bens response from evga?
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Nothing so far as I've seen. Maybe he's just not around at the moment, or awaiting an official update or something from EVGA, before he chips in.

I suspect in reality (I'm hoping), this is maybe a non issue for most folks. Not even sure myself if this is a real problem, or not. Fair enough, there's been cards that have gone pop. But I suspect until EVGA does some real digging (IE. examine any dead cards etc.) and testing / investigation, can they even be sure that this is the reason some of these cards are FUBAR!? Though them talking about extra thermal pads, is a bit ominous I think. If it's a real problem, then there should (in my opinion) be a recall. Offering the "option" for uses to mod their cards "if they want to" ... to me... sends the wrong message. Only my personal opinion/s folks.

Being paranoid (like many I suspect) I have set up a slightly more aggressive fan curve and cut 8/10C off my load temps. Sure this should help... but who knows.

My card (EVGA 1070 FTW) so far appears to be fine. Shipped 31/08/2016 and also has the Micron memory. The memory issue is also something I'm not sure that EVGA has handled very well. Great of them to come up with new BIOS/s for these cards but no real directive if these are recommended for everyone with the Micron memory, or what!?!?! Ben did say earlier to me, that EVGA cards were not effected... makes you wonder! Gone a bit off thread here.
 
Stratosphere83 said:
Our Asus motherboards although different chipsets may share something in common causing the issue. I'm wondering if I should start another thread so not to derail this one.
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Tried a few things. Dropped my overclock back down to 4.3, flashed the bios in my 1070 to the latest and the issue seems to have gone away, for now.....
 
I checked out the bios update but it looks like the only documented fix is to the voltage regulation for VRAM on cards with micron memory. It is Ok to use with Samsung VRAM though so perhaps there are some un-documented fixes that solve the issues I'm experiencing.

Im currently running 373.06 drivers so I will check for any improvements on the latest 375.57
 
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