**EVO Performance Tyre Test 2012**
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Because, like me and the majorioty of other people on here, you never drive your car anywhere near the limits that makes tyre choice in this range an issue. Sure, I'm not saying put ditch finders on, because that is silly, but a vred sessanta is not going to perform any better or worse than a CSC3 given the style and type of driving we both do. It's not like we go every weekend to the track. A CSC3 is not going to keep you on the road any better than a Sessanta. And, unlike a tyre review where I've lived with them for the best part of 4 years, I can wholeheartedly say they were always better than the GSD3 and the Asyms I had on there last year, without doubt. Quieter, gripier, longer lasting and they stop just as well as any other tyre I've ever used where I've had to stop quickly.
I'm in the same boat as you though. I've never tried a CSC3, but I can't say it's going to make my driving world a better place to be. However, you should at least try the vreds for a full round, and then you can be free to impartially comment on them to your hears content
Thank you, this further helps me justify my purpose.
On this car right now are 2 Sunfull's on the fronts... never heard of them? nor have I... but they don't understeer one bit and the ABS has only kicked in once when i was being a complete tool on wet roads.
Do I want to keep them on there? no not really, but they are almost brand new and honestly haven't caused me the slightest bit of worry whilst driving around on wet cold roads.
On the back I have 2 Nexan N3000's... these are awful in the wet, TC light has a fit at me, but they are also on about 1.7mm of tread left, so that could be why.
Yes I bought an expensive to run car, and yes I have cheap tyres on it right now, but I don't drive this car hard because it's my car, for doing that I use my bike with it's £240 a set tyres which I pay close attention to. 99% of drivers simply don't put the tyres in a position that would stress them enough to buy silly expensive sets, my bike tyres keep me upright, the car ones stop me spinning out and ploughing into the back of someone.
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And a ramble it is.
Get all 4 replaced with something decent. I mean seriously, 'Sunfull' on a 330Ci? You never know when you might need to call on your tyres performance to stop you fast - and it'll probably be when you are just popping to the shop at the speed limit so driving style doesn't excuse the use of dodgy chinese tyres.
It could be on a dry road or a soaking wet puddle filled road, which is the best tyre though ?
Pretty much anything other than a 'Sunfull' I'd imagine
I appreciate the OP didnt choose the tyres on his 330Ci as he's only just bought it but if I went to view a 330 and found those fitted to it I'd run away screaming not hand over my hard earned thinking 'What a cared for example' Considering the CD left it in was 'Dean Martin's Greatest Hits'... I imagine it was an old bloke! I've done some brake tests in it, I'll be the first to admit these are a terrible brand tyre, but from what I've tested/put them through, they will do for now.
i dont understand those tyres at all. A recent trackday showed guys on those tyres were only just faster than me (on CS3's) but as soon as it started raining they all stopped because they had no grip at all, while i was out there with only 2 other cars... a GTR and a Ferrari. Was the most fun ive had on a trackday. Why compromise on wet grip so badly just to gain like 1-2% on dry?
Have now managed to read the test in question.
It's actually very good - and independantly done as well, away from any tyre manufacturer facility (Not that I think this makes an awful lot of difference but some do). The MIRA facility is excellent and allows the closest thing you'll get to real world tests under controlled conditions.
The results between the top 3 were all so close to call that arguably its unlikely many of us will notice any difference in terms of outright performance. Much of the Conti's success appears to stem from the subject tests - so if outright feel is important, its probably the place to go. Myself I think following the test I'm minded to go for the Eagle F1 Assymetric 2. It performs absolutely excellently in the tests that matter to me.
Most interesting is the Kumho. For a long time now I've felt this is a tyre that is almost certainly unjustifiability praised by people who really hope they've found a decent tyre that doesnt cost as much as the premium stuff but in reality simply isn't as good. The test results here seem to back this up - they describe it as being decidely average. It seems the only thing the Kumho has going for it is 'cheap', and I cannot rationalise with the concept of buying a performance car and then picking tyres purely based on cost, therefore the test has only reinforced my opinion that the Kumho's are probably pap and the user opinion is subconciously skewed by price.
I remain dissapointed that the opportunity to test the CS5 was not taken.
It's actually very good - and independantly done as well, away from any tyre manufacturer facility (Not that I think this makes an awful lot of difference but some do). The MIRA facility is excellent and allows the closest thing you'll get to real world tests under controlled conditions.
The results between the top 3 were all so close to call that arguably its unlikely many of us will notice any difference in terms of outright performance. Much of the Conti's success appears to stem from the subject tests - so if outright feel is important, its probably the place to go. Myself I think following the test I'm minded to go for the Eagle F1 Assymetric 2. It performs absolutely excellently in the tests that matter to me.
Most interesting is the Kumho. For a long time now I've felt this is a tyre that is almost certainly unjustifiability praised by people who really hope they've found a decent tyre that doesnt cost as much as the premium stuff but in reality simply isn't as good. The test results here seem to back this up - they describe it as being decidely average. It seems the only thing the Kumho has going for it is 'cheap', and I cannot rationalise with the concept of buying a performance car and then picking tyres purely based on cost, therefore the test has only reinforced my opinion that the Kumho's are probably pap and the user opinion is subconciously skewed by price.
I remain dissapointed that the opportunity to test the CS5 was not taken.
Scan it in and post it up?
I was giving it some on the way to work this morning on greasy, wet, peasant covered roads, very impressed with the levels of grip the As2 gives, but it still just snaps and I get the dissapointing sounds of Und-d-d-d-dersteer.
I was giving it some on the way to work this morning on greasy, wet, peasant covered roads, very impressed with the levels of grip the As2 gives, but it still just snaps and I get the dissapointing sounds of Und-d-d-d-dersteer.
Various, but Pirelli PZero and ContiSports are amongst the most popular. Due to the Porsche approval system many Porsche cars still have older tyres such as CS2..
I read it in Smiths, I cancelled my Evo sub months back
Genuine question as I don't know the answer but I wonder how much of this is the tyre and how much is the car? I'd imagine its a bit of both and i guess any tyre choice is a tradeoff between progressiveness and grip. Something that grips super-well will eventually snap whereas something that grips less might be more progressive as it loses grip.
Which is best is therefore a personal thing - some people like the exploitable control on the limit, others prefer the outright grip.
Your car can take PE2 at £50 a pop
(edit, unless you have 16's)If that makes me poor, rock on