Evolution DSL - Anyone using them?

Jimbo · 19 Apr 2006 at 10:51

By the way this is them right?

http://www.evolutiondsl.net/index2.htm

Naan_H · 19 Apr 2006 at 11:17

Jimbo said:
By the way this is them right?

http://www.evolutiondsl.net/index2.htm

Yep thats them

Nathan · 19 Apr 2006 at 11:26

Just seen this from a regular over adslguide, be very wary guys, its going to go **** up

8 meg unlimited is commerical suicide.

Don't kid yourself. I don't see full speed now til after midnight. This place is rapidly becoming leechers heaven. Evolution don't need to throttle any ports/protocols because we're all going to be contending the bandwidth ourselves. 90 ppl on 8Mbit maxxing out their connections via giganews can choke a 622M BTCentral. Entanet (evodsl's wholesale supplier) have 3 622M BTcentrals. You do the maths. I think I'm going to be looking for a capped provider pretty soon if it gets any worse. Just done a quick check and I'm getting 180K/sec or so right now. Still, it was great for the first week...

Luke284 · 19 Apr 2006 at 11:39

Pinging www.google.com [66.249.93.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=244

Ping statistics for 66.249.93.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 29ms, Average = 26ms

thats a ping to google. if you want a ping to different addresses then ask.

as for the speed. i was getting 700-800k this morning. things do get slower during the day. atm between 500-600k. it does get slighlty slower in the afternoon but never drops below 2mb speeds. picks up again by midnight though.

Raider · 19 Apr 2006 at 11:51

As far as i'm concerned, as long as I can get 2Mbit at any time of day then that's great. If Evolution gets so busy that they can't even offer that, then there may be a problem

Luke284 · 19 Apr 2006 at 11:57

exactly. as long as it is faster than the 2mb i had before at the same price then im happy. anything else is a bonus. its not as if im wanting very large files to be downloaded quickly all the time, and for general surfing/downloading 2mb is ok.

i find that speed testers are very bad at giving accurate results. so ive got a couple of linux isos in a dl manager to pause/start as needed.

Naan_H · 19 Apr 2006 at 12:10

I really hate this negativity; people arent even giving them a go and have already slated them. They are charging a good price for unlimited broadband; if u want full 8mbit with a cap then join someone else, and pay more for the privilege; as stated before, as long as i get 2mbit speeds im more than happy, and as i use the net more in the evenings that suits me fine.

Jimbo · 19 Apr 2006 at 12:17

Amen to that. As soon as I get my mac of pipex I'm in there. The pipex option I have at the mo is £34 for 2 meg and now the dowload speed is capped a 20k a sec.. this to me is not on.

So for £25 I will get something better than what I was being offered from pipex. I for one am fully prepared to give Evolution a go.

Cooper · 19 Apr 2006 at 13:39

I just migrated to them today, can someone clear up this 10 day period for me...at the minute my download speed is varying wildly from 50k a sec to 180k a sec , (im limited to a max 3mb due to distance from the exchange).

Is this normal, one minute slower than my old 1mbit Pipex and then faster, but not even reaching 2mbit speeds?.

Pings are fine though..just tried out a BF2 server and it was a solid 20-30.

csmager · 19 Apr 2006 at 13:49

Cooper said:
I just migrated to them today, can someone clear up this 10 day period for me...at the minute my download speed is varying wildly from 50k a sec to 180k a sec , (im limited to a max 3mb due to distance from the exchange).

Is this normal, one minute slower than my old 1mbit Pipex and then faster, but not even reaching 2mbit speeds?.

Pings are fine though..just tried out a BF2 server and it was a solid 20-30.

If you check your stats, you might see a lot of CRC errors/uncorrected blocks... which would account for crummy speeds. The BRAS profile you're on might be set to a lower data rate to help increase stability.

Basically, over the 10 days (although as far as I've noticed, within the first three) the DLM will collect data on your line and increase SNR/turn on interleaving as needed to maintain good stability. When it's more stable, the BRAS profile should update to increase the data rate.

In short - it'll almost certainly improve. Just be patient.

tolien · 19 Apr 2006 at 13:54

Naan_H said:
I really hate this negativity; people arent even giving them a go and have already slated them.

Because they can see where it's going to lead?
It was the same story with E7Even, and look where they've ended up.

They are charging a good price for unlimited broadband;

Good for you yes, viable (as far as breaking even) with more than a handful maxing out their connections, no.

To get 2Mbps out of a connection that's capable of 8Mbps you're only looking at a 4:1 contention ratio - most decent ISPs are running at nearer 5 times that (on the basis that 99% of their userbase aren't downloading the internet).

At least it's a monthly contract, and hopefully Enta won't make it too hard to get MAC keys when it does screw up.

Cooper · 19 Apr 2006 at 13:56

csmager said:
If you check your stats, you might see a lot of CRC errors/uncorrected blocks... which would account for crummy speeds. The BRAS profile you're on might be set to a lower data rate to help increase stability.

Basically, over the 10 days (although as far as I've noticed, within the first three) the DLM will collect data on your line and increase SNR/turn on interleaving as needed to maintain good stability. When it's more stable, the BRAS profile should update to increase the data rate.

In short - it'll almost certainly improve. Just be patient.

Interleaving...hmmm

When i ordered for evo, it had the option to have that disabled on your connection, which i did, because i read that it can mean poor pings in online gaming, which is my main use for the connection.

Would this be making a difference and will it ultimately mean slower speeds than i was expecting?.

I was hoping for 2mbit speeds at the very least.... :mad:

csmager · 19 Apr 2006 at 14:00

Cooper said:
Would this be making a difference and will it ultimately mean slower speeds than i was expecting?.

I was hoping for 2mbit speeds at the very least....

Basically interleaving means that bits are placed in different BINs at different time delays so there's more chance of any corrupted blocks being corrected if there's a random noise burst. Doing this will obviously add time to your pings.

Having interleaving off may mean more SNR is required to maintain a stable connection, thus lower speeds...

Only one way to find out though - wait and see.

Cooper · 19 Apr 2006 at 14:10

csmager said:
Basically interleaving means that bits are placed in different BINs at different time delays so there's more chance of any corrupted blocks being corrected if there's a random noise burst. Doing this will obviously add time to your pings.

Having interleaving off may mean more SNR is required to maintain a stable connection, thus lower speeds...

Only one way to find out though - wait and see.

I suppose so....if the speeds im getting, now down to 30k a sec...

, turn out to be typical, then the 1mth contract will be just that..1mth and i'll be off...

, i opted to pay by direct debit, so if it dosent get any better over the next week or so, the direct debit form wont even get handed in to the bank.....the only good thing at the minute is browsing and gaming pings are fine, so i guess waiting for DL speeds to increase is no big hardship.

Thnx for the replies, put my mind at rest...kinda..

slipd · 19 Apr 2006 at 14:24

Cooper said:
I just migrated to them today, can someone clear up this 10 day period for me...at the minute my download speed is varying wildly from 50k a sec to 180k a sec , (im limited to a max 3mb due to distance from the exchange).

Is this normal, one minute slower than my old 1mbit Pipex and then faster, but not even reaching 2mbit speeds?.

Pings are fine though..just tried out a BF2 server and it was a solid 20-30.

Cooper, I’m in the same boat as you as Im only able to get (Up to) a 3 MB connection because of my line?
I’m currently on 1 MB with Pipex and as soon as that’s up (2 months) I’m off

I’m interested to know what kind of sync rate and 'set speeds' you get at the end of the day, so keep us posted

Like you said, as long as we can get over 2 MB, which I currently cant have, it’ll be a good result?

SW.

Trickeh · 19 Apr 2006 at 15:11

Got my mac code from pipex last Friday and ordered Evolutions MAX service on the Tuesday i've had a automated email stating my line should be up by the 25th, anyone know if i can expect this any sooner?

How long did it take for your line to get up and running afte migrating?

Thanks

/Trickeh

Cooper · 19 Apr 2006 at 15:13

Trickeh said:
Got my mac code from pipex last Friday and ordered Evolutions MAX service on the Tuesday i've had a automated email stating my line should be up by the 25th, anyone know if i can expect this any sooner?

How long did it take for your line to get up and running afte migrating?

Thanks

/Trickeh

1 week.

csmager · 19 Apr 2006 at 15:14

Migrations aren't like new lines - they don't involve an engineer. The whole process is automated, so it will happen on the date they've given.

Jimbo · 19 Apr 2006 at 15:22

Just got my mac code from Pipex, Im now ordering the Max from evolution.. yeeeah.

Edit:

I hope this dosent come back and bite me hard on the arse.

Jimbo · 19 Apr 2006 at 15:31

Does anyone know if I should choose static or dynamic ip address?

I take it it should be static as its free? and dynamic is £4.99 a month?

IP Addresses
You can select a dynamic or static IP - Evolution do not charge for a single static IP. If you require more than one IP address, you can reserve a continuous range of 8 IP addresses for just £4.99 per month (including VAT). Larger blocks will be considered - please contact [email protected] before ordering.

Im a bit confused cos there are 3 options to choose from here -

single static ip address

dynamic ip address (dosent say if this one is free or not)

and

block of 8 ip addreses @ £4.99 mnth.

Please answer asap as Im ordering now.

Im gonna go for the static.. so it should be £25 a month yes?

Yes Im thick.