Evolution DSL - Anyone using them?

Luke284 · 19 Apr 2006 at 17:54

you should get a stable connection on max in a few days

now, this is interesting. i was donloading from newsgroups via port 119, i then change this port to 80 and the speed goes from about 60k to about 450k.... i smell some fishy (basic) traffic management.

csmager · 19 Apr 2006 at 18:17

Luke284 said:
now, this is interesting. i was donloading from newsgroups via port 119, i then change this port to 80 and the speed goes from about 60k to about 450k.... i smell some fishy (basic) traffic management.

Does make you think. From the Evolution page:

Remember, unlike most ISPs, and what makes Evolution Broadband so attractive to professional Internet users is that we introduce no port blocking, bandwidth throttling, or traffic shaping at any point in our network. This includes both P2P (peer to peer) and client-server connections.

Note this says our network? Anyone think they've been devious and failed to acknowledge that the Enta service they resell (i.e. the BT Centrals) do have shaping?

Luke284 · 19 Apr 2006 at 18:20

thats the only explination i can think of. hopefully they wont introduce any more advanced traffic management on newsgroups

Raider · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:51

Just came in from work, and started downloading off Giganews..
Average speed: 10k/s

Looks like the bubble has burst! :mad:

EDIT: Just changed to port 80 for newsgroups.. and now speed is at 450k/s.. something fishy going on.. :rolleyes:

Luke284 · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:53

Raider said:
Just came in from work, and started downloading off Giganews..
Average speed: 10k/s

Looks like the bubble has burst!

try a different port i think giganews also works on port 23

Raider · 19 Apr 2006 at 21:02

Luke284 said:
try a different port i think giganews also works on port 23

Well fingers crossed port 80 will continue to work!

Anyone else spotting suspicious port behaviour :confused:

csmager · 19 Apr 2006 at 21:07

Raider said:
EDIT: Just changed to port 80 for newsgroups.. and now speed is at 450k/s.. something fishy going on..

Yep -shaping. As I said, probably on enta's centrals, and not on their network. So their statement on the site isn't actually lying, it's just not particularly honest.

tolien · 19 Apr 2006 at 21:33

Sounds just like Zen's "no contention on our network".

Raider · 19 Apr 2006 at 22:05

What are the odds of them spotting the shift in activity on port 80 and 23?

Luke284 · 19 Apr 2006 at 22:07

well those ports could quite possibly have a lot of traffic in normal use. good thing about newshosting is the fact that there is a wide range of ports that can be used.

csmager · 19 Apr 2006 at 22:08

Raider said:
What are the odds of them spotting the shift in activity on port 80 and 23?

That'd be an amusing thing to notice... 'we've suddenly got an awful lot of traffic on telnet..... some users using 100Gb+ a month'

Don't think it'd be long before they spotted that one.

Raider · 19 Apr 2006 at 23:05

Hmm, ADSL connection just dropped.. reconnected straight away.. but still funny. Hope this all gets sorted out soon!

Nathan · 20 Apr 2006 at 09:00

If they introduce ellacoyas, theres not hope in hell changin ports will help

Looks like they are hitting max capacity already. laugh.

Nathan · 20 Apr 2006 at 15:44

People right across the board on adslguide getting 5kb/s on newsgroups. Didnt last long :/

Luke284 · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:03

im getting worse that that on my newshosting.com account (on all the ports) but im getting good (400k+) on my astraweb account on port 119. so dont really know whats going on :eek:

Nathan · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:04

hmm dodgy routing maybe? I know some enta are said to be looking into it.

Luke284 · 21 Apr 2006 at 10:35

Evolution Website said:
Note 21/04/06
Support is aware of an issue with download rates on certain ports and protocols and is investigating this as a priority.

Thinking about asking for a MAC code, then if it doesnt get much better i can move elsewhere!

Naan_H · 21 Apr 2006 at 10:41

Luke284 said:
Thinking about asking for a MAC code, then if it doesnt get much better i can move elsewhere!

A tecchie from Entanet International (Evolutions provider), has made this post

http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=entanet&Number=2402882

Looks like this is the cause to the problems we have been having and is being sorted out.

Nathan · 21 Apr 2006 at 11:19

I call bluff, why would ONE machine limit JUST newsgroup activity. Yeh ok.

Luke284 · 21 Apr 2006 at 11:32

is it possible to limit speed to a certain address? i know they can do it via port.
im asking as i get no speed when conecting to newshosting.com but above 2mb (but still not great) speeds when conecting to news.astraweb.com.