Exclusive Hands On PS3 Report! Big read

I think with all the delays, uncertanties(sp) and the fact it will be hardly any better than the 360 it would be a silly move for software studios to make any of there AAA tittle exclusive to the PS3 afterall they've got to make a living!

Can you imagine just how good games are gonna look and how big the Live community will be by the time PS3 gets released. If it's gonna take another year or so for PS3 to hit the streets then sony might be wise to skip a generation and bring something out in say 2-3 years that will kill the 360 on every level.
 
knowledge123 said:
not if sony opens their wallet ;) i think they might be, :D
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Heh, compared to Microsoft, Sony are barely a blip on the revenue radar.

TBH, I doubt there will be many console-exclusive games once both PS2 and 360 are in a lot of people's houses. Would you rather have a potential market of 10 million, or 25 million users?
 
wyrdo said:
I honestly thought the PS3 would be slightly further along than this report suggests.
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Agreed!

It does appear that Microsoft caught Sony with their trousers down with the 360.

As other have pointed out by the time the ps3 has been released the quality of the games coming out of the 360 camp will be far superior.

Its kind of like the ps2/xbox launches in reverse. The xbox was released much later and although technically superior the ps2 had already shown it was more than capable and the games coming out for it were much better than the xbox could pull out of the bag.
 
shame others dont see it that way, i know plenty of people who are willing to wait for a ps3 when they could have a 360 now. Its a shame cos they are missing out :D
 
oweneades said:
It does appear that Microsoft caught Sony with their trousers down with the 360.
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Yeah makes you wonder if the rumors were true with sony sacking all the PS3 team after a big mess up

i mean microsoft have managed to release 2 consoles since the PS2 sony need to get their finger out !
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R5Rich said:
shame others dont see it that way, i know plenty of people who are willing to wait for a ps3 when they could have a 360 now. Its a shame cos they are missing out :D
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Yes I agree, why not stop moaning and buy both. When the ps3 comes out you can have saved the cash again and it will still be cheaper to buy the 360 and ps3 than a gfx 7800 gtx and decent dual core cpu.

Perhaps sony are waiting for the 12 month warranties to run out on the 360 before launching the ps3 ;)
 
knowledge123 said:
all sounds good mgs4 still can't be beaten, and thats still very early, unoptimised, code so....its down (imho) to
naughty dog
io interactive
polyphony digital
criterion studios
free radical design and , of course,
rockstar north to pull something special out of the ps3.
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I got the impression it wasn't 'all good' from what they were saying. No proof of a controller, empty boxes (of which are gonna get bigger) and games that weren't close to what Sony were promoting. It also pretty much killed off what people were saying regarding Xbox360 being a backwards step by not using HD-DVD/Blu-Ray when PS3's games are designed at a 10x Speed DVD rom drive on DVD capacity.

knowledge123 said:
imho i think ps3's extended production life will pay dividends many times over,the developers have more time to make the games therefore more titles on lauch+ of higher quality, sony has more time to ready its ads campaigns and make it even more high-tech (don't take out any features Sony, make everyone buy two 1080p screens!) and we have more time to save up and buy more games on launch, it all makes sense in the end AND sony can take a good hard look at the competion (cough,cough) and aviod their mistakes (two different launch packs, tsk,tsk)
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Did you read the whole thing? It looks like it will support 1080p, but games will be aimed at 720p instead as it's cheaper and easier, also, 1080p is in the vast minority, even the newest sets being released today don't have it in the vast majority of cases. Also, 2 different launch packs weren't a mistake on Microsofts behalf, after all, both sold out and each pack was aimed at a different gamer.

knowledge123 said:
not if sony opens their wallet i think they might be,
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Sony don't actually have that much money, they are on somewhat of a financial low if reports and stocks are to be believed. Whereas Microsoft are one of, if not the, richest companies in the world. Microsoft can afford to lose more money than Sony if it benefits them in the long run.
 
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sounds like sony are quite some way behind microsoft in actually getting the ps3 in the shops, hardly suprising considering they are up against microsoft, who must have by far and away the deeper pockets, and as these consoles seem to be the start of moving computers into the living room, i see sony having an upward battle this time around.
 
Thanks for posting that up in it's entirety! :)

Very interesting read. Don't get me wrong, I loved the PS2 and sold my Xbox after about 1 month of owning one, but I'm beginning to think more and more that Sony may have severely dropped the ball.

Showing Killzone was wise at E3 as it made people think "Wow! Look at that! I'm going to wait for that baby!" - arguably the best showing of E3 was the Fight Night Round 3 in game footage...

The bubble then began to deflate a bit when people found out that Killzone was FMV... and that the X360 could reproduce Fight Night in just as much jaw dropping, face rippling detail. Now it sounds like Sony might not be able to hit the high standards gamers were expecting from the E3 FMV fest.

I always thought Sony were relying a bit too much on brand identity by giving Microsoft this big a headstart, and the more I read about the PS3 launch delays and state of final hardware, the more I think they may have dropped the ball.

If this article is remotely true (and it's well written and from a seemingly proffessional site so it should be) then it looks like there won't be much difference (at least initially) between the games we see on the Xbox 360 and the PS3. The PS3 sounds like it should be able to shift more data, but only if programmers can work out how to get around the Cell architecture and the memory bandwidth issues. Also mentioned is the huge headstart Microsoft will have when it comes to developers starting to unlock the best of the X360 by the time the PS3 is launching.

Look at Live now - we've got downloadable demos for a console, for the first time ever. We've got possibly one of the best organised communities ever where it's basically like a huge phpBB2 board - you can add buddies to your list, talk to them like it's Skype, leave them voicemail, PMs and invite them into your home via wireless LAN. We've already had one update to the Live software, and I would be very surprised if the dashboard has not been overhauled by the time the PS3 has launched. So we basically have a UI that Microsoft can update any time they want to and basically give us a brand new gaming experience.

I buy consoles to play games that I enjoy, get my heart racing and get me involved in rich worlds filled with interesting characters and engrossing storylines. That doesn't happen overnight. Developers take a while to start hitting us with their AAA titles (look at the last two years for the PS2 - Shadows of the Collossus, God of War, Burnout Revenge (graphically), Black) and by the time the PS3 launches the Xbox 360 will be showcasing it's best material and hopefully be past the 'Oooh buy me 'cause I'm pretty' games, and be onto the 'I can't remember being this into a storyline in years' phase.

I thought about holding back and waiting to see what the PS3 would bring, but I was in a position to buy an X360 on release day, so I did. Now hearing about the PS3 launch, how far it is away and how small comparatively the leap will be over the Xbox 360, I'm extremely happy that by the time we get our hands on whatever new DualShock Sony come up with, I'll have had the most exciting 18 gaming months of my life since the N64 came out.
 
I was even more surprised that Microsoft used Macs over PC's. But it was a quick turnaround (around 5 months IIRC) and I hope Sony can do the same. I would rather it come out in 2007 though, allows me more time to save money!
 
It's way too early to draw any conclusions about which console is better IMO. No doubt the PS3 and 360 will have virtually identical performance so it will boil down to the exclusive games that come out for the respective platforms. eg. PGR/Forza etc exclusively on 360 and GT etc on PS3. The rest of the games will be on both platforms and play and look identically.
 
NokkonWud said:
I was even more surprised that Microsoft used Macs over PC's. But it was a quick turnaround (around 5 months IIRC) and I hope Sony can do the same. I would rather it come out in 2007 though, allows me more time to save money!
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They didn't have much choice tbh, using a PowerPC processor. Gave the devs a very good headstart too, having the API and hardware thats compatible is all you really need to start developing a game seriously.

Besides, MS have a load of shares in Apple ;)
 
I wonder if any 1 in MS has seen and read that report? Because as it says they are writing games for 10x dvd which means they cant be pushing bluray to much yet as id imagine that would bring even more delays at this period! Would be a brilliant time for MS to start pushing hd-dvd as they can now see the huge headstart they have.
 
R5Rich said:
I wonder if any 1 in MS has seen and read that report? Because as it says they are writing games for 10x dvd which means they cant be pushing bluray to much yet as id imagine that would bring even more delays at this period! Would be a brilliant time for MS to start pushing hd-dvd as they can now see the huge headstart they have.
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Problem is, MS can't push HD-DVD very easily now that it's not integrated directly into the 360. It's going to have to be an optional extra, and unless they bring out the drive for less than £20, not everybody is going to want to buy an added extra to play the odd game or two.
 
Will Sony Survive The PS3

While I'm waiting for my repaired 360Xbox to arrive tomorrow, found this article on the net which is interesting.

Below is last paragraph of the four paged article (don't know if I can link the article to this web site or not (Rules).

'While I don't think we'll see Sony close its doors for good, I have some concerns about the affect the PS3 could have on Sony's financials over the next few years and into the future. Microsoft has created an impressive console with the Xbox 360 and while Sony has a strong history in the PlayStation line, there are key components for concern. Blu-Ray, an online service like Xbox Live and a hard development environment create additional areas for financial loss that may not be recouped. For the sake of competition and a strong market, let's hope Sony can address these concerns adequately and while there is still time'

If I can let me know!
 
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