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Sony have a lot riding on the PS3 after falling proffits in the last few years due to cheeper (quality electronics) being produced by the likes of samsung LG and others

The Playstation brand (and market) is the only one that currently sony still domanate they have lost the portable music market to Apple and are losing huge ground on TV and PC screens to the likes of samsung and LG
 
Just as well they do have the playstation then cos people on here have common sense and can see thru things where as the majority will still buy the PS3 so that will keep em afloat.
 
XBOX 360 is a great console, and windows is probably one of the reasons or the only reason why, what the xbox will always have is a windows OS inside the box, and beside the box with PC's. With Vista coming out soon and XP being widely used at the moment there is no way Playstation will be able to touch the 360 when it comes to connectivity.

Although the Playstation 3 has got fantastic hardware may i remind you of this IGN article.

When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.
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Also i feel Sony are pushing way to much on blu-ray, it is almost like they are dependent on blu-ray to succeed through the PS3 and visa versa.

All in all i will probably buy a ps3 but i will always prefer my 360 purely due to the fact that i like Microsoft, i don't remember the last time i booted up a Sony OS and owned somebody on Counter Strike. (then again I have never owned somebody on XP :D)
 
When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3
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from an article in May 2005.. lol. Why don't they wait until the PS3 is actually released before proclaiming as fact that the 360 is faster.. just a crazy thought :o
 
dirtydog said:
from an article in May 2005.. lol. Why don't they wait until the PS3 is actually released before proclaiming as fact that the 360 is faster.. just a crazy thought :o
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That is one of the whole points of the artical, the 360 specs quoted there are exact to the specs of the system today, which can't be said for sony in previous years such as the PS2 release.

Edit: oh yes because the 360 was released in may wasn't it?!
Why don't they wait until the PS3 is actually released
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Yes but they can't look at raw specs and extrapolate that to say what the real world performance will be.

There is so much hysteria over this whole thing anyway and I don't know why that is. Both consoles will have very similar performance, period. Most games will be on both platforms. Each console will have a few exclusive titles - that will be one of the decisions determining people's purchasing choice. Neither the PS3 or the 360 will be faster than the other to any significant degree.
 
MINTED said:
Edit: oh yes because the 360 was released in may wasn't it?!
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Well quite - which is another reason for IGN not to make such bold statements. Let's wait until both consoles are released, games are in our hands, then judge (compare) them. Until then it's just speculation and hype.
 
I honestly don't see why people are so 1 side on the fence. Can't people accept it and have both?

I much preferred the Xbox over the PS2, but I had both on Launch (and Game Cube/Xbox360) but I will definitely be getting a Playstation3, yet so many people here feel they have to mock and tear apart the PS3 without even seeing it.
 
The PS3 will come out on top just because its a playstation. As someone said a while ago, there is a strong bond with children and 'playstation'.

Also, the PS3 can learn from the 360's mistakes.. e.g. Reliability and Stock.
 
that wont learn from it, they **** of with the ps2 and that was as bad if not worse then the 360. The ps3 is gonna be worse still just cos its the 3rd installment people are expecting more than ever.

And reliabitly is just as bad on both sides. Sony = 1000s of faulty power supplies and bad drives etc.. PSP randomly ejecting UMD trays/dead pixels all over the place/X button not working.
 
Xtorsion said:
The PS3 will come out on top just because its a playstation. As someone said a while ago, there is a strong bond with children and 'playstation'.

Also, the PS3 can learn from the 360's mistakes.. e.g. Reliability and Stock.
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I've had more problems with Sony gear than Microsoft Gear.

4x Sony Playstations
2x Sony Playstation2's
 
im on my 3rd ps2, and accoring to something i read it says, theres no way its gonna do 32.9 1080p, and 1080p is gonna be done by upscaling, lame.
 
I'll try and add my thoughts, ignoring the hardware power side.

I think what is significant is that the PS3 will be aimed distinctly at the 18-34 year olds, even more so than the PS2. The high launch price (£399 my bet) will no doubt reflect that. This means that once the PS3 is released in reasonable numbers then parents will face a bill for around £500 to get a basic PS3 setup (extra controller + game + whatever..). Compare that with what will no doubt be a reduced Xbox 360 Premium price of around £209 (by the time PS3 is released) then I think a lot of parents will buy the established (and cheaper!) brand.

The Blu-ray thing could indeed backfire. The cost of implementing the drives will no doubt be quite high. But it's still not set in stone that Blu-ray will win the format war. Can you imagine what Sony would have to do if HD-DVD won the war and they were left with millions of drives that people couldn't use? :eek:

That's an unlikely scenario I know, but still it adds to the uncertainty! For me though it's the most exciting time in consoles ever. We've just had a fantastic console launched, and we're about to see something else just as exciting very soon :D
 
Surely the PS3 will have to be priced at a very similar level to the 360, say £299, or it will fail miserably won't it? I really don't think the average punter is clamouring for Blu-Ray, I don't think most people give a toss about that do they?
 
dirtydog said:
Surely the PS3 will have to be priced at a very similar level to the 360, say £299, or it will fail miserably won't it? I really don't think the average punter is clamouring for Blu-Ray, I don't think most people give a toss about that do they?
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It'll have to be competitively priced in order to sell more units as you say. Kids and most adults who buy the PS3 won't care about Blu-ray, only the gadget freaks among us. I'll be getting one for sure.

It might pay for Sony may make 2 version of the PS3, 1 with Blu-Ray, 1 without. It will save them money and also mean they can charge a lower price for one, meaning more units sold. A similar strategy to M$ and their core system.
 
RoB- said:
It'll have to be competitively priced in order to sell more units as you say. Kids and most adults who buy the PS3 won't care about Blu-ray, only the gadget freaks among us. I'll be getting one for sure.

It might pay for Sony may make 2 version of the PS3, 1 with Blu-Ray, 1 without. It will save them money and also mean they can charge a lower price for one, meaning more units sold. A similar strategy to M$ and their core system.
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But weren't all the games going to run on Blu-Ray?

I'd imagine DVDs would reach their limit pretty quickly on PS3. Mind you I guess MS is doing ok (so far!!) :p
 
IMO there is a few things that need to happen.

Sony need to take the PS3 back to the drawing board. If it is going to come out over 12 months later than the 360 then it needs to have a lot more power than the 360. The Xbox was defiantly much more powerful than the PS2 when it came out. No one would have bought it otherwise. Sony managed to get the PS2 out later than the Dreamcast. And be less powerful but that was because of Sega's arrogance and poor market strategy and bad handling of their product. Also SEGA has been on a downward spiral anyway.

It looks like Sony did not learn from Sega's mistakes. They looked to expand their market presence into Portable gaming at the obvious expense of their core console market. They are barely competing with the DS atm and look to be making the same mistake with the PS3. That is underestimating the power of their badge and the strengths of their opponents position in the market.

Sony need to have something that makes people want their console. Killer apps do it. But not if the competitors are releasing the same killer apps or better apps.
This means they need a gimmick. Better graphics might not do it (if they can even produce better graphics with their first gen games compared to the 360s 2nd or third Gen games). Blu-Ray may do it but then again it looks like in the UK at least it is the 360 that is inspiring the Purchase of HD TV's so it is likely that Sony will miss out on these consumers, unless the price is right.

We have to ask. What can MS do to hamper Sony sales? MS are Jedi masters of taking over markets and pushing out the competition. They are far better at this than they are at building software or games consoles. Things I can see MS doing are price cuts. Cheap bundles and the release of a killer app/bundle a month or 2 before the PS3 goes on sale in each territory. (ie the game is a loss leader in the territory that the PS3 goes on sale but makes the profit in other territories where the PS3 is not about to be released).

I am not hopeful for Sony currently it really does look like they have dropped the ball and if they are putting a similar product out, that plays similar games at a similar quality for double the price then how can they be competitive?

Sony's only hope is to release a new and improved version of FFVII IMO (as long as its only the graphics and sound that are updated, and voice acting used). But they do not seem to be persuing this avenue.
 
Raider said:
But weren't all the games going to run on Blu-Ray?

I'd imagine DVDs would reach their limit pretty quickly on PS3. Mind you I guess MS is doing ok (so far!!) :p
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Going from a previous article on here, the launch games for the XBox 360 barely used HALF a DVD and there really is no need for more than a DUal Layer DVD for atleast 5 years unless you want to fill it with FMV sequences etc
 
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