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Removed User 345456 said:
It's not about what some random thinks though, it's about justice for the victim/their family/what they have to live with for the rest of their lives... [..]
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It's about your desire to watch people being tortured to death. You're just using the victim/their family as another excuse.

Also, you understand that some of the people you'd enjoy watching being tortured to death are innocent of whatever crime they're accused of. But that wouldn't stop you.
 
Angilion said:
It's about your desire to watch people being tortured to death. You're just using the victim/their family as another excuse.

Also, you understand that some of the people you'd enjoy watching being tortured to death are innocent of whatever crime they're accused of. But that wouldn't stop you.
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I haven't stated I have a desire to watch it, I've said the victims are entitled if they wanted to, to see the justice of their choice administered.

Again you're stating I'm into watching this? Grabbing at straws again. What's the statistics, and I mean ACTUAL ones of people recently executed for rape/abuse that haven't done it versus the ones that have... Or are you just generalising about any type of execution ever?
 
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I see you've given up on your argument that adult male rape is worse than doing it to an innocent defenseless child, least that's progress...
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An argument they never made, unsurprisingly. You're making stuff up.

You argued that the sex of the victim of rape makes a huge difference to the extent to which rape is bad.

They argued that rape is bad regardless of the sex of the victim.

And now you've lied about what they wrote in order to libel them. That's not reasonable behaviour on your part. Should you be tortured to death for that? I'd argue not, but since you're in favour of torturing wronguns to death for your pleasure maybe your opinion is different.
 
When I had a colonoscopy, they put me under with propofol. The nurse started the drug and I could feel it immediately. I remember saying "That's potent stuff." -then instantly (to me at least) opening my eyes in a different recovery room.

If they had overdosed me while I was under, I don't think I would have had any idea I was dying.
 
Removed User 345456 said:
I haven't stated I have a desire to watch it, I've said the victims are entitled if they wanted to, to see the justice of their choice administered.

Again you're stating I'm into watching this? Grabbing at straws again. What's the statistics, and I mean ACTUAL ones of people recently executed for rape/abuse that haven't done it versus the ones that have... Or are you just generalising about any type of execution ever?
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You have been very explicit in voicing your fantasies of watching people being tortured to death, e.g.

Removed User 345456 said:
There should be no softly softly kindness given to any wrongun that does disgusting crimes/rape/murder/peado/abuser, if anything they should switch the chemicals up like in Law Abiding Citizen and make it really ******* hurt when they administer them, whilst everyone watches and laughs.
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All your posts on the subject have been very clear. It was only after the initial challenge that you started using the victims as an excuse for your bloodlust.
 
I read the article earlier and it said on there that the findings aren't safe, in that it is possible to survive and leaving the inmate with severe pain and/or life-long disability. This is harsher than what the prosecution or judge originally asked for and will cost the state a whole world of more money. I agree with @moon man in that anaesthetise the inmate first then do what it takes to finish him off. I'm against capital punishment though.
 
Angilion said:
An argument they never made, unsurprisingly. You're making stuff up.

You argued that the sex of the victim of rape makes a huge difference to the extent to which rape is bad.

They argued that rape is bad regardless of the sex of the victim.

And now you've lied about what they wrote in order to libel them. That's not reasonable behaviour on your part. Should you be tortured to death for that? I'd argue not, but since you're in favour of torturing wronguns to death for your pleasure maybe your opinion is different.
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No YOU BOTH are twisting what I'm saying.

My entire point has always been that the worst of the worst is rape/abuse done to a defenseless kid. ALL he has come back with each time is a poor me don't you think it's bad to be done to adult males too, which I never claimed it wasn't, but then he went on a oh this is a gender thing, NO it's been a reinforced fact it is obviously WORSE to a defenseless child!
 
Twinz said:
When I had a colonoscopy, they put me under with propofol. The nurse started the drug and I could feel it immediately. I remember saying "That's potent stuff." -then instantly (to me at least) opening my eyes in a different recovery room.

If they had overdosed me while I was under, I don't think I would have had any idea I was dying.
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Drug companies have generally decided to not sell their drugs for use in execution. That's why places in the USA that have the state kill people are looking for other ways of doing it.

I'm not sure what they put me under with when I had surgery. Probably the same as you, as it's proven to work extremely well. My experience was the same as yours. Remarkable stuff, subjectively like being instantly teleported through time and space. A couple of seconds from injection to blank, subjectively instant awakening in a different time and place. What happened in between is a complete blank. They could have been wheeling me round town with a traffic cone on my head for all I know.
 
Angilion said:
You have been very explicit in voicing your fantasies of watching people being tortured to death, e.g.
All your posts on the subject have been very clear. It was only after the initial challenge that you started using the victims as an excuse for your bloodlust.
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Haha yeah I frequently go and watch executions m9, you've found me out :cry: That's what I got my passport for.
You have got me thinking about it now though, so that must mean you're an influencer?:cry:;)

Are you that gullible? I made that remark, 1 because it was funny in the film because the scumbag in the film tries to gloat and shows zero remorse then instant karma kicks in - which never would in that way in real life, and 2 because we discuss films on here, so I wanted to see if anyone would pick up on the reference/if they'd agree. As it was savage instant karma for what he did to that innocent family.

If you're idea of a discussion is coming out with nonsense like saying someone has a blood lust because they don't want a rapist or nonce to get a quick painless death, then that's pretty poor tactics really isn't it.

Maybe one day if it becomes legal over here, I'll go watch some nonce get slowly executed and say you sent me? I can shout bloodlust and throw up a gang sign? That'd make you right then eh?
 
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Removed User 345456 said:
No YOU BOTH are twisting what I'm saying.

My entire point has always been that the worst of the worst is rape/abuse done to a defenseless kid. ALL he has come back with each time is a poor me don't you think it's bad to be done to adult males too, which I never claimed it wasn't, but then he went on a oh this is a gender thing, NO it's been a reinforced fact it is obviously WORSE to a defenseless child!
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That has not been your point. If you want to lie about what you wrote, you should go back and delete what you actually wrote.

But you'd still be out of luck because you can't delete what they wrote so your lies about that will remain obvious.
 
Angilion said:
That has not been your point. If you want to lie about what you wrote, you should go back and delete what you actually wrote.

But you'd still be out of luck because you can't delete what they wrote so your lies about that will remain obvious.
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I listed multiple things that deserve execution, I then enforced my opinion that taking on a female of any age versus a male IS worse and done a LOT more, which it is...

Males are more capable physically to attempt to defend themselves, that isn't me being nasty to women nor men, but we are bigger than women and stronger usually, and females aren't exactly growing up fighting with males in the same way lads grow up scraping with each other/bullied, it is a whole different ball game, yes it is very bad for it to happen to a male of any age too, and I'm not saying all males can/would/do/have defended themselves in any form of attack/rape/abuse!

I'm just saying it does happen more to women/kids/vulnerable people, and there definitely is not groups of rapists going out praying on any bloke they can find unlike with women/elderly...
They WILL get some form of defense done back by most men, and even if they don't defend, there still isn't packs/gangs of men going out trying to rape a random bloke on the street versus women...

I also said it's bad regardless of who/situation? I said that multiple times...

I then said doing anything to a child is the worst, which it obviously is. Versus any of the other crimes, simply because a child is defenseless on an incomparable scale. How is that a lie?
 
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The state can be barbaric. Of course the death could be pain free - like when the vet put my cat down a while back. But no, the state wants to cause pain and suffering.
 
Angilion said:
Drug companies have generally decided to not sell their drugs for use in execution. That's why places in the USA that have the state kill people are looking for other ways of doing it.

I'm not sure what they put me under with when I had surgery. Probably the same as you, as it's proven to work extremely well. My experience was the same as yours. Remarkable stuff, subjectively like being instantly teleported through time and space. A couple of seconds from injection to blank, subjectively instant awakening in a different time and place. What happened in between is a complete blank. They could have been wheeling me round town with a traffic cone on my head for all I know.
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Maybe once the patent runs out, someone else can make available for executions.

If the goal is to end someone without any additional pain and suffering, something like that drug should do the job well.
 
The electrocution isn't too pleasant either

the prisoner’s eyeballs sometimes pop out and rest on [his] cheeks. The prisoner often defecates, urinates, and vomits blood and drool. The body turns bright red as its temperature rises, and the prisoner’s flesh swells and his skin stretches to the point of breaking. Sometimes the prisoner catches fire….Witnesses hear a loud and sustained sound like bacon frying, and the sickly sweet smell of burning flesh permeates the chamber.
 
Angilion said:
Drug companies have generally decided to not sell their drugs for use in execution. That's why places in the USA that have the state kill people are looking for other ways of doing it.

I'm not sure what they put me under with when I had surgery. Probably the same as you, as it's proven to work extremely well. My experience was the same as yours. Remarkable stuff, subjectively like being instantly teleported through time and space. A couple of seconds from injection to blank, subjectively instant awakening in a different time and place. What happened in between is a complete blank. They could have been wheeling me round town with a traffic cone on my head for all I know.
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Would have been proposal 100%. It’s the standard general anaesthetic and is used in smaller amounts for sedation. It’s also what killed Michael Jackson.
 
I guessing if you go to Switzerland for a voluntary ending it will be a tidier job, that's my main point as it seems to be more about suffering and if this is justified
 
Does it really matter if a murderer suffers when they are executed? I'm sure they didn't apply the same consideration on the poor sod they murdered in the first place. Hope this place isn't turning into Mumsnet.
 
[FnG]magnolia said:
The only thing that'll save this thread from being the GD 3 monthly "KILL EM ALL vs REHABILITATE THEM ALL" nonsense fest is that keef will almost certainly get himself banned because he's a purebred, 100% certified loonbag.

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I didn't realise that I should give murderers/paedos/rapists a pass, let alone a nice quick painless death, whilst the permanent damage is done to their victims for the rest of their lives...

The difference is I'm not claiming I want to do the executions/go on a rampage killing the wronguns.

Why does it make me a loonbag to want a victim and their families to get the right IF they see fit, to decide the fate of the abuser/how the sentence/death is decided, vs leave it upto people who aren't involved on a forum. Are you that dense?

I'm hardly going to get banned for feeling sorry for victims/their families and wanting justice for them, and this thread is relating to those punishments. It's a discussion, why would they ban me for having my right of opinion just like everyone else. If that was the case we wouldn't have a controversial free reign GD section.
 
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