F1 2007/2008 Winter Testing and Rumours
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I read 3 years but he has an option to leave after one. No doubt performance based.
They both deserve it each other. A whinging cheating driver for a cheating team. I hope they rot together next year.
A similar combination didn't do schumacher much harm, come to think of it, the more tricks he got up to the more he seemed to be admired.
Maybe Alonso just needs to ram a few people off, back to the glory days for F1 then.
I think a lot of the people who post on this forum are Brits and they cant see past the fact that he did not get on with their golden boy (Hamilton), hence, they call him cheat and dislike the fact that he did well at McLaren, in the single season he was there.
There is no reason why Alonso couldnt go onto win many more world titles. He has many years ahead of him in F1, should he choose to and stay fit enough to drive a race car.
I can see Alonso and Hamilton sharing race victories/titles in years to come, providing they drive competitive cars.
There is no reason why Alonso couldnt go onto win many more world titles. He has many years ahead of him in F1, should he choose to and stay fit enough to drive a race car.
I can see Alonso and Hamilton sharing race victories/titles in years to come, providing they drive competitive cars.
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Someone is a bit pissy this morning!
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I heard 3 years, with an opt-out after 1, at a cost to Renault of £70m over the three years.
I am not British and I hate him, the same as I hate Schumi, they will forever be the Spanish and German gits in my opinion.
We will see how good a driver he is next year when he isn't in the best car on the grid (most likely)
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What driver/team do you support Dutch Guy?
Edit: To agree with sunama, I also believe that a lot of people are Brits/Hamilton fans and as a result, Alonso is the worst driver in history and can do no right.
He is a good driver, I question how that can be argued with, just watch previous seasons... For people to be wishing that he'll be in bad cars not competing for victories is ridiculous.
There's already a lack of top drivers competing for wins, why would people want to remove even more competition?
Yet more edit: People lost confidence in Max Mosely years ago, it got worse after he announced retirement and back-tracked... I don't think the typical .gov petition will have any effect other than to make us more miserable.
Edit: To agree with sunama, I also believe that a lot of people are Brits/Hamilton fans and as a result, Alonso is the worst driver in history and can do no right.
He is a good driver, I question how that can be argued with, just watch previous seasons... For people to be wishing that he'll be in bad cars not competing for victories is ridiculous.
There's already a lack of top drivers competing for wins, why would people want to remove even more competition?
Yet more edit: People lost confidence in Max Mosely years ago, it got worse after he announced retirement and back-tracked... I don't think the typical .gov petition will have any effect other than to make us more miserable.
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Nigel Mansell, Ayrton Senna and Mika Hakkinen
I used to dislike Ferrari and like McLaren but that was in the Hakkinen/Schumacher era, at the moment I like Kimi to win but tbh I don't really care who wins as long as the race is entertaining to watch.
As a team I guess I'd like BMW to mix things up even more and challenge for the title.
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A BMW win in 2008 would be good to see, I still hold out some hope for Honda/Button and Red Bull though. Maybe I'm just being foolish. I don't think Red Bull are allowed to build a car that goes a race distance...
The more teams/drivers that are challenging for wins the better, I'm expecting good things from next season, despite what Massa says... (Cry cry cry, no TC, it'll be worse racing, you'll all see)
The more teams/drivers that are challenging for wins the better, I'm expecting good things from next season, despite what Massa says... (Cry cry cry, no TC, it'll be worse racing, you'll all see)
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some of the things senna did on the track would never be tolerated today and were comparable to what schumi did in monaco, however a great driver for that era 
ive been reading a lot of F1 drivers biographies which give quite a good insight into how the sport works etc, the coulthard one was a riot and a good insight into how mclaren used to operate which was not to dissimilar to how they were operating in 2007. The James Allen one about schmacher "On the Edge" is also a very good read imo.
ive been reading a lot of F1 drivers biographies which give quite a good insight into how the sport works etc, the coulthard one was a riot and a good insight into how mclaren used to operate which was not to dissimilar to how they were operating in 2007. The James Allen one about schmacher "On the Edge" is also a very good read imo.
I dsilike him because he blantantly cheated. Some sportsman, the same goes for Pedro da la rosa. If Pedro gets the 2nd mclaren seat you can bet you backside the cheating went deep within mclaren. Again, why has he not been sacked????
Lots of forums I frequent many many alonso fans now dislike him. F1 chat groups and people I travel to gp's with loved Alonso. He lost a lot of fans this year.
I've never much cared for Benetton or renault much of that is down to Flav and his handling of drivers. Clearly they have cheated as well this year and for some reason gotten away with it.
The grandprix.com article clearly shows what people think....
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19924.html
Yet such is the mafia of F1 that journalists get their free travel and passes removed if they speak out. Hence the reason pitpass has been so successful, they dont have free passes.
I have only ever followed one English driver in my life, Mansell. Never cared for any of the others much. Certainly have no liking of Hamilton so thats not a reason for disliking the cheating Alonso.
I guess I just dislike the way admitting guilt to nail mclaren has got him out of a cheating rap.
Alonso is a good driver sure, but his reputation is damaged beyond repair.
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Any news on how the Honda car is coming along ? Would really like them to do well, can not believe how bad they were last year.
Check out 2005 and 2006. He wasnt in the out-and-out best car, but still beat the might of Ferrari and MS. Hakinnen also beat MS/Ferrari, but he did it when Ferrari were still finding their feet and moving forward.
You could say he beat a MS way past his prime. I think the superiority of the ferrari in the early part of the decade hid his slow decline to the one alonso beat.
The car was nowhere near as good in the years Alonso beat the ferrari, just like in your hakkinen example you could say Ferrari were trying to refind their feet
Kimi was the fastest real challenge to alonso but the mclaren didnt hold out. If it had I doubt Alonso would be a two time world champion, maybe not even a 1.
But hey he should be alright now he's shackled another driver with a get out my way clause.
We'll know in Jan I expect when they are running all the proper 2008 regs etc rather this year most teams are running 2007/8 hybrids for now. I hope they have a good car as well. At least if they have a 'reasonable' car, Brawn will extract the best in terms of teamwork & strategy now.
The 2005 wasn't in any sense of the word a good car (Ferrari were arrogant after the dominant 2004 season and didn't do anywhere near enough work to account for the rule changes) and was further hamstrung by the Bridgestone tyre design not being suited to single tyre/race requirements. By contrast the Renault was perfectly suited to the rules, yes it wasn't the fastest car out there, but with a set of rules that rewarded consistency and reliability the car had the perfect blend of speed (certainly the 2nd quickest car on the grid) and ability to keep scoring points.