F1 2009 Season discussion/development thread
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I imagine his mclaren deal is a very very long one.
I can't remember which race thread it's in, but I recall an article or post talking about Hamilton wanting to remain at McLaren for his entire career and me retorting that he'd soon move if McLaren built a crap car.
For their sake, I hope they get their problems sorted in time for Melbourne....and they ought to, really. They've been at this game long enough now.
Didnt Button have a contract with Williams when he moved to BAR?
And didnt Alonso have a 2 year deal with McLaren, when he left after 1 year?
Unfortunately, contracts mean very little in sport.
I think this year, we might see Hamilton's loyalty tested and maybe we will find out just how ambitious he is.
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Iam totaly gutted with the brawn gp performance. Not because its bad but because i ve always been a honda fan. My first car and bike were hondas, old 1988 civic and a cg125. Would have loved to see honda win things again. after seeing the performance of the new brawn car i wonder if alonso will rue not signing for honda. Still its shaping up to be a good season of F1
So when Button broke a contract for a better option he was roundly regard as a ****. Yet if Hamilton does it it's ambition?
Alonso went because Mclaren were just as glad to get rid of him, especially after grassing the team up.
I doubt it would be as easy for Hamilton to leave. Anyway didn't the ruling go that Button couldn't leave and he had to pay his way out. Button didn't break his contract because he wasn't allowed. He bought the contract out at a time he wasn't getting paid anywhere near what hamilton currently is.
I love the way the glory hunters seemed to have latched onto the team already after testing times
Where in all reality would he go?
Ferrari: No space there as the next opening will probably be for Alonso. I also don't think he'd be a fit there.
BrawnGP: Who knows if they'll be around in 2010 and even competetive with a massively reduced budget.
Renualt/Toyota: Both parent companies are expressing doubt about competing for much longer according to reports.
Any of the others: With the exception of BMW and perhaps Williams (if they can get back on form) they are, in all likelyhood, not going to produce a WDC winning car any time soon.
Perhaps when Webber retires or moves on from RBR (the only other team I think has a shot in the next few years) he could go there - but if Vettel is as good as everyone thinks he is you'd have clash of drivers - it always seems that a team does better with a stellar driver and a support driver than it does with two superstars.
If he wants a good chance of getting another WDC or two then McLaren are his only hope as things currently stand.
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Although I think he'll stay at McLaren, the only other option I can see would be BMW.
Day 2 testing - http://translate.google.com/transla...ircuito-de-jerez/&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=
Damn Roger Barrichellois just under a second faster than the rest.
Also, looks like Mclaren may have have got the speed sorted out a little. The car still seems to be best of the rest and not the lead runners.
Barichello's just done a 1:18.398, that's almost as fast as the 08 STR that tested before they got their 09 car (I think that was testing with slicks too).
Whatever BGP have done, they've done it right.
Hamilton now in the mid 1.19's, so they've clawed some performance back, but I don't think it's going to be enough.
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I wouldn't speak too soon on that - McLaren have been at this game long enough now, they can get that car up to roughly where it should be by the end of March.
McLaren always used to be great strategists aside from having the best technology at their fingertips to produce a winning car. They seem to have lost that edge over the past couple of seasons with some silly mistakes. If they end up running a lemon and still make the same strategy mistakes we could well see a substancial team breakdown!
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This season is going to be epic.
Hamilton in a **** car is something the 'haters' have asked for, lets see how good he really is and how much he has learnt. It certainly isn't boding well for mcl, but I wouldn't write them off yet.
Hamilton in a **** car is something the 'haters' have asked for, lets see how good he really is and how much he has learnt. It certainly isn't boding well for mcl, but I wouldn't write them off yet.
I wonder how much of McLaren's problem is down to the inexperience of their driver lineup. Race speed is one thing, and Hamilton certainly has that, but the ability to give good technical feedback for development is another and that, it seems, takes longer to develop.
Any reason for me to watch this year - been depressed with F1 for ages now and when talking to friends about F1 it leads to little, or no excitement...
Hell it was only posting/debating on the OcUK F1 race threads that kept me going last season - Im sure no one will miss me posting if I stopped watching it...
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Hell it was only posting/debating on the OcUK F1 race threads that kept me going last season - Im sure no one will miss me posting if I stopped watching it
...ps3ud0
Could be. It also could be opposite for BrawnGP. They have two well experienced drivers who have/had (depends on your personal slant on that one
) race winning qualities. I fully believe this is why both drivers have dedecated themseves to the casue of the team, rather than try and get themselves into the better car at a team they don't know. Whatever though, it seems to be paying off in testing.Any reason for me to watch this year - been depressed with F1 for ages now and when talking to friends about F1 it leads to little, or no excitement...
Hell it was only posting/debating on the OcUK F1 race threads that kept me going last season - Im sure no one will miss me posting if I stopped watching it
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You'll just have to watch at Melbourne and see what's what. You can't deny that there's some potential for some surprising drives this season is testing is to be believed.
Haha, yeah some of the translatios are quite funny. Car = wagon etc
Aww you can't give up now - we have slicks, less down force, an underdog team doing well...Any reason for me to watch this year - been depressed with F1 for ages now and when talking to friends about F1 it leads to little, or no excitement...
Hell it was only posting/debating on the OcUK F1 race threads that kept me going last season - Im sure no one will miss me posting if I stopped watching it
Even watching Massa in the rain can't keep you watching??