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F1 2019 - News & Rumours

Discussion in 'Motorsport' started by SpartaK, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. SpartaK

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    No need to be a killjoy man, I hope you have to eat your words sooner rather than later.
     
  2. CaptainRAVE

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    To be fair there were people calling this by page 3 of the Oz thread :D
     
  3. 4K8KW10

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    This is just a way to express a protest against Ferrari killing the joy and desire in me to watch the races. With their already tiring and boring team orders/corruption, I am not going to support them.
     
  4. The_Abyss

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    Feel free to pop back into the forum at the beginning of the 2020 season then :D
     
  5. 4K8KW10

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    Only if there is a genuine competition, if not... don't bother. One second gap per lap in Australia says it all.
     
  6. timmeh

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    Wait, people are calling the championship already? How long have I slept for?
     
  7. JRS

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    Question - had the positions been reversed, and Ferrari had been ahead by a second per lap in Australia, would you have been okay with that? After all, that would invite the same lack of competition as the Mercs being ahead. Is it the lack of competition for the race win that bothers you, or do you not mind one team dominating if that team is Ferrari?

    Yep, in the Australian GP race weekend thread :rolleyes::)
     
  8. The_Abyss

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    But you keep saying it. Hence why I suggested you just take a break from the season that you think is all over, and we'll see you back in here for pre-season testing next February :)
     
  9. MissChief

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    I think people need to chill a little. Australia is never a good indicator of the performance of the cars and being the first race and a flyaway race the cars are rarely complete or at their peak. Last years race was no different really.
    Vettel won, but didn't win the Championship. Lewis was 5 seconds back, but no doubt Seb wasn't pushing and managing the gap. After the safety car came in on lap 31 the order didn't change. Albert park has, and likely always will be, a crap track for passing on.

    1 5 [​IMG] Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 58 1:29:33.283 3 25
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    44 [​IMG] Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 58 +5.036 1 18
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    7 [​IMG] Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 58 +6.309 2 15
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    3 [​IMG] Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer 58 +7.069 8 12
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    14 [​IMG] Fernando Alonso McLaren-Renault 58 +27.886 10 10
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    33 [​IMG] Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer 58 +28.945 4 8
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    27 [​IMG] Nico Hülkenberg Renault 58 +32.671 7 6
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    77 [​IMG] Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 58 +34.339 15 4
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    2 [​IMG] Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren-Renault 58 +34.921 11 2
    10
    55 [​IMG] Carlos Sainz Jr. Renault 58 +45.722 9 1
     
  10. Stumble Bum

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    Actually Hamilton should of won that race. He just got unlucky that Vettel had the opportunity to pit under a virtual safety car. Hamilton had it won otherwise.
     
  11. CaptainRAVE

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    True, but Mercedes opened up a huge gap this year. I don't remember them having quite such a gap last year before the safety car shenanigans? I could be wrong.
     
  12. Stumble Bum

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    agreed. Ferrari were really off the pace this year, more so than 2018.
     
  13. timmeh

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    People were calling the championship after Qualy in China saying that Hamilton was out of it and it was Vettel's year, and look how that turned out. It looks like we've upped it this year and are calling the championship after the first race. Ridiculous.

    Like you said, Albert Park is a **** track to gauge performance on. It's like saying Ferrari were slower than a wounded Red Bull because they couldn't pass at Monaco. Let's see what's happening when we get to the European tracks.
     
  14. CaptainRAVE

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    It can all change with one upgrade too. I remember when Ferrari brought a new floor last year that gave them 0.5-0.7s, but then equally other upgrades put them backwards. It can all change quickly. Of course typically Mercedes develop well throughout the season and red bull even better. Who knows by the final race.
     
  15. Greboth

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    Patrick Head to return to Williams on a short term basis

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47749887

    With Lowe gone and Head back hopefully Williams can make some kind of recovery as it is a shame to see a name like Williams struggling at the back. Though if it is only short term, I'm not sure how much influence Head could have.
     
  16. The_Abyss

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    That can only be a good thing, and would appear to indicate that the problems are of structure, organisation and management rather than financial.

    He can steady the ship and get the team operating effectively again, but that may just mean that a slow car can run consistently.
     
  17. Spunkey

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    I don't see it helping this years car much, but if he can fix their seemingly massive organisational problems then it could help next year - assuming they have the finances in place to keep going.
     
  18. timmeh

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    The rumour mill is churning this morning saying that Verstappen is set to join Mercedes for 2020. I had to check it wasn't an old article from the 1st ;)

    He does have a performance clause in his contract so he can get out of it for next year. It would be a real kick in the nuts for Red Bull, having their golden boy leave and having no good backup.

    Silly season is starting early this year and it should be interesting :)
     
  19. The_Abyss

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    If true then that could trigger Red Bull to sell and exit the sport. I doubt that Mercedes would secure him for 2020 though - more likely 2021 when all the top drivers are out of contract due to the rule changes. Mercedes themselves are not committed beyond 2020 at the moment.

    I wonder what Ocon's feeling now. He's going to have to get used to this all season.
     
  20. Mr Jack

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    Lewis vs. Max in the same car. Who wouldn't want to see that?