F1 2022 Car Launches
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Caporegime
Indeed they did, but Aston also has show cars, and they chose not to use them. With Ferrari, Merc, and Alpine launching in the week before the first test they may well feel that there's no real loss in revealing it. After all the other teams will get a far better look at the cars as soon as they're in Barcelona.
Yea, I'm sure it comes down to their workflow. If they have a basic/early model lying around and it's convenient to skin because it gives them a template for the final design, then I'm sure they will.
I'm glad AM did something different because it looks miles better than the reference.
Caporegime
I wonder how often teams put fake details on launch cars to throw the opposition off.
Soldato
Maybe Aston Martin have done just that...
Soldato
No doubt. Things like the front / rear wings, skirts - will all be straight from the reference car. No point showing their hands at this stage.
I'm just waiting to see if anyone's done something completely different or found any loopholes. I can't believe the race trim wings are going to look like what we've seen so far, well maybe except the Haas. Those aspects will definitely be held back until FP1 of the first race.
I'm just waiting to see if anyone's done something completely different or found any loopholes. I can't believe the race trim wings are going to look like what we've seen so far, well maybe except the Haas. Those aspects will definitely be held back until FP1 of the first race.
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I’m liking the neon green too. Maybe it’s the colour scheme but I actually caught myself thinking “that looks cool” 
Soldato
Yeah, I dont dislike that Aston. I wasnt sold on the look of the concept show car of the new cars. However, seeing the "real" thing, I'm changing my opinion.
McLaren this evening at 19:00
Caporegime
This guy's analysis videos on the cars are top notch:
Lots of interesting details on that Aston.
Lots of interesting details on that Aston.
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Very interesting, would have thought the Red Bull approach was going to be the standard by most of the teams. I imagine as they have confirmed that was their approach there will be some pretty tasty/rule pushing deployments on their car come testing.
Have to wonder why anyone would take the approach of revealing details (e.g the double tea tray at this point - no matter how minor a gain it might be) with other teams having plenty of time to try and catch up...unless there are red herrings dotted around? I'm no specialist on F1 aero so that particular example may just of been a calculated non-big-benefit design element but none the less.
The arched front wing makes a lot of sense to maximise the air coming into the front floor so can see that been a very familiar theme pretty much following the legal guidelines of what is allowed size wise to be deployed. The stark difference between the Hass shape and AM shape behind the driver is also a difference in overall design philosophy.
Have to wonder why anyone would take the approach of revealing details (e.g the double tea tray at this point - no matter how minor a gain it might be) with other teams having plenty of time to try and catch up...unless there are red herrings dotted around? I'm no specialist on F1 aero so that particular example may just of been a calculated non-big-benefit design element but none the less.
The arched front wing makes a lot of sense to maximise the air coming into the front floor so can see that been a very familiar theme pretty much following the legal guidelines of what is allowed size wise to be deployed. The stark difference between the Hass shape and AM shape behind the driver is also a difference in overall design philosophy.
Soldato
Do they have plenty of time to try to catch up though? Copying a feature from one car with a certain aero philosophy might require a complete re-design and change aero philosophy on another.
Think RB in 2009 with the DD. Newey is quoted as saying "The double diffuser concept doesn't sit that easily with the packaging and aerodynamics of our car, so it hasn't been easy to get a step forward in performance."
Caporegime
Yup, and as well there are homologated elements that can't be changed and differences in the power unit packaging between the four suppliers. Cars work as packages not individual elements. I don't recall teams being overly shy about their car reveals in the past, sure there would be details here and there they hold back but we saw the actual cars at launch events not a pretend car in fancy drag like the RB launch, didn't we?
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Exactly. You can't just bolt on the "best bits" of other teams and produce a winner. If you're struggling with low pressure in an area then you'd copy a design that would help with that... however it may also compromise your design further back etc.
I don't envy the aerodynamicists
I don't envy the aerodynamicists
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Well, yes, not necessarily "plenty of time", however at least a month head start on what they would have had if they revealed on first day of testing.
With the double diffuser from Brawn, there must have been some throttle with other teams following suite as there was dispute as to its legality during early races. So I am sure some of the teams would have drawn up a concept and worked it through, but couldn't put full resource to it until it was completely cleared and they could afford to put full resource into it. I recall Red Bull had a significantly different approach to elements of their car which made it more tricky for them to deploy compared to others on the grid too which it was much more of an upheaval to them.
Either way, nice to be talking about the cars heading into the season. Start of season can't come soon enough
Caporegime
Two things come to mind: the first is that, IIRC, the power of Brawn wasn't realised until it turned up at the first test and blew people away. Even then people though that they were underfueling the car to make it seem fast and attract sponsors. Seeing widget X on a car isn't going to attract that much attention until you've seen how that car performs. Maybe Aston's new sidepods are genius, maybe they're not, how much resource are you going to sink into figuring it out before you even know whether it works or not?
Secondly, with the new budget cap this year the trade-off is even starker. Big money teams can't just assign fifty dudes to figuring it out, they're directly trading off developing their own ideas against figuring out whether someone else's funky detail is worth pursing.
Caporegime
The shot from above as it left the garage looks like the launch one. Could be angle? Could be they ran more than one wing? I'm not sure what the rules about shakedowns are.
edit Actually, looking at the right side where it meets the endplate on your pic I think there's clearly an extra element at the front, I think it's angle?
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