F1 Qualifying 2019

andicole0 · 2 Oct 2018 at 12:23

Yet again the 'powers that be' seem to think picking at something will heal the main event.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/139075/f1-could-get-new-qualifying-format-for-2019
Andi.

GravyMonster · 2 Oct 2018 at 14:48

I've said it before, qualifying doesn't need tinkering with, so it's a...

.. from me

Quartz · 2 Oct 2018 at 14:50

One more advertising break.

Armageus · 2 Oct 2018 at 14:59

"They've been doing a lot of research among fans, and they feel this is one of the things that the fans would like."

I'd like to see which "fans" they did research with to come up with this gem.

Qualifying is probably best format it's ever been (and at times more exciting than the actual race) - if it isn't broke then please don't change it

The_Abyss · 2 Oct 2018 at 15:11

The current breed of drivers seem incapable of not blocking each other in qualifying as it is. Shorter sessions will only make that worse. I can't see the benefit in this, other than:

Quartz said:
One more advertising break.

which appears to benefit Liberty only.

poosemon · 2 Oct 2018 at 15:28

How about Top 5 drivers from FP3 get a free pass in the first quarter of qualifying.

Less traffic in Q4 with teams that would obviously be getting through regardless? More reason to get decent laps in Free Practice too?

andicole0 · 2 Oct 2018 at 16:08

Quartz said:
One more advertising break.

I don't think we get ad breaks in Quali on Sky.
Andi.

Yaayuh! · 2 Oct 2018 at 16:31

Armageus said:
I'd like to see which "fans" they did research with to come up with this gem.

Qualifying is probably best format it's ever been (and at times more exciting than the actual race) - if it isn't broke then please don't change it

Agreed. Out of all the issues I have with F1 at the moment, qualifying isn't really one of them.

ThestigGT999 · 2 Oct 2018 at 16:52

Most people here have missed the point here imo, they should change qualifying to Improve the race

here's my idea, Points for qualifying (top ten) and top ten reversed

increase overtakes from the start and more strategies will come into play during the race

here is a more complete table

andicole0 · 2 Oct 2018 at 16:56

If we want the best car at the front maybe the Stig could do 1 lap in each car. Or if we want the best driver how about they each do 1 timed lap in a reasonably priced car.
Andi.

Quartz · 2 Oct 2018 at 17:53

andicole0 said:
I don't think we get ad breaks in Quali on Sky.
Andi.

We do on Channel 4.

Deleted member 651465 · 2 Oct 2018 at 18:18

andicole0 said:
I don't think we get ad breaks in Quali on Sky.
Andi.

Not yet

utajoker · 2 Oct 2018 at 18:31

we are going to make qualifying more exciting by removing more drivers from the exciting bit of qualifying.

Genius

holdin09 · 2 Oct 2018 at 18:40

To be honest I doubt it will make much difference really. It will make Monaco better but everywhere else will be as usual just with 4 parts instead of 3.

UTmaniac · 2 Oct 2018 at 20:15

I'd rather they base the grid start on either the previous race result or the drivers championship standings, using the time to give the rookies and test drivers more time in either a race format or practice.

Four qualifying sessions in an hour sounds very hectic!

this_is_gav · 3 Oct 2018 at 10:15

At least it's not changing the recipe, only tweaking it. I suppose on most tracks you'd be limited to one lap (or a two laps on the same tyre) which might make for the odd mistake and mix it up, without resorting to gimmicks like reverse grids (leave that to the BTCC thanks).

It's unlikely to make much difference 95% of the time and is more prone to deliberate blocking. As such just leave it be.

timmeh · 3 Oct 2018 at 14:46

I'm not against the change but qualifying has been better than the race on quite a few occasions so why do they need to change it?

The only issue I see with the current format is that teams with grid penalties don't run so why not make changes to the engine penalty system to get more cars out.

Definitely don't want to see artificial things like reverse grids and you just know that basing the grid off the previous race will see teams try and finish in certain positions before tracks they know will be difficult to overtake on or that they'll struggle on. The race before Monaco would be a race for last place

This isn't qualifying related but I'd like to see a 3rd points system added for engine suppliers. It'd give engine suppliers extra incentive (other than cash) to work with and supply 'works spec' engines to other teams that they may not already.

The_Abyss · 3 Oct 2018 at 15:26

timmeh said:
Definitely don't want to see artificial things like reverse grids and you just know that basing the grid off the previous race will see teams try and finish in certain positions before tracks they know will be difficult to overtake on or that they'll struggle on. The race before Monaco would be a race for last place

This. F1 teams would work out within a couple of races how to score points more effectively and ruin the show in doing so. The minute teams are rewarded for not performing or penalised for performing then a huge problem is introduced.

ThestigGT999 · 3 Oct 2018 at 15:54

timmeh said:
Definitely, don't want to see artificial things like reverse grids and you just know that basing the grid off the previous race will see teams try and finish in certain positions before tracks they know will be difficult to overtake on or that they'll struggle on. The race before Monaco would be a race for the last place

lol are you combining two different ideas?

The_Abyss said:
This. F1 teams would work out within a couple of races how to score points more effectively and ruin the show in doing so. The minute teams are rewarded for not performing or penalized for performing then a huge problem is introduced.

Sort of like teams not setting a time in Q2 to get a tyre choice.

GravyMonster · 3 Oct 2018 at 16:09

No one intentionally doesn't set a time in Q2 to get tyre choice; that would leave them 15th. They don't set a time in Q2 when they're getting eleventy million grid penalties for changing a washer on the engine and will be at the back of the grid anyway.

F1 Qualifying 2019

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