F1 Testing 2014: Week 1 Jerez

Skeeter said:
You know Bernie has zero say in the regulations, right?

F1 is a sport governed by the FIA, not FOM. Sure he's vocal and has an ability to influence, but he's not in any position of being able to define rules.
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Yeah but the FIA want teams to stick around, and the teams sponsorship deals are dependent on TV viewing figures. There's nothing wrong with wanting people to watch your sport on TV, but it's very much a central part of the sport.
 
True, but ultimately the decision is the FIAs.

If a crazy old man says you should get a tattoo saying "Plonker" on your forehead, and then you decide to go and get it done, who's the fool? :p

The FIA have gone against Bernie's wishes plenty of times before, like the V6 turbos as an obvious example. But the bigger issue for the double points is quite why none of the teams bothered to say anything about it, when it was quite clear everyone else in the world thought it was retarded.
 
The cars sound rubbish compared to last year. Turbo noise isn't going to cut it as a replacement. Just hope they sound better at full revs.

If they were popping and banging and throwing out wild waste gate noise like some group b rally cars did... I might view it differently.
 
Skeeter said:
True, but ultimately the decision is the FIAs.

If a crazy old man says you should get a tattoo saying "Plonker" on your forehead, and then you decide to go and get it done, who's the fool? :p

The FIA have gone against Bernie's wishes plenty of times before, like the V6 turbos as an obvious example. But the bigger issue for the double points is quite why none of the teams bothered to say anything about it, when it was quite clear everyone else in the world thought it was retarded.
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I don't think the teams are that eager to bite the hand that feeds them to an extent. I can't off the top of my head think of a situation where they came out and criticised anything that the FIA have done, they tend to hide behind "well they decided this and they had the evidence" etc. Even with the whole tyres situation the teams were quite restrained.

ZG002 said:
The cars sound rubbish compared to last year. Turbo noise isn't going to cut it as a replacement. Just hope they sound better at full revs.

If they were popping and banging and throwing out wild waste gate noise like some group b rally cars did... I might view it differently.
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They might be popping and banging and throwing out engine parts in Melbourne :p
 
Caged said:
I don't think the teams are that eager to bite the hand that feeds them to an extent. I can't off the top of my head think of a situation where they came out and criticised anything that the FIA have done, they tend to hide behind "well they decided this and they had the evidence" etc. Even with the whole tyres situation the teams were quite restrained.
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Really? Ferrari have basically spent 60 years trying to tell the FIA what to do. And most of the major teams are very vocal abouts things that effect them. The off throttle engine maps, changing the tyre compounds, the medals system, the original 25 points system with a random step between 6th and 7th, and the inline 4 cylinder engines. Just off the top of my head all things the FIA proposed that the teams said no too. There's a stack more.

The proposed breakaway series was the biggest, where a number of teams told the FIA they would walk away if there demands were not met.

The teams are very much not in a position of just accepting the FIAs decisions. Which is why letting the double points system through is such a shock to me.
 
Skeeter said:
True, but ultimately the decision is the FIAs.

If a crazy old man says you should get a tattoo saying "Plonker" on your forehead, and then you decide to go and get it done, who's the fool? :p

The FIA have gone against Bernie's wishes plenty of times before, like the V6 turbos as an obvious example. But the bigger issue for the double points is quite why none of the teams bothered to say anything about it, when it was quite clear everyone else in the world thought it was retarded.
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And the interesting point there is that I read, about a week ago, that and I quote "none of the teams present at the meeting wanted to go against Bernie"... that may be speculative and I can't remember where I read it or who from but the gist was to the point of 'we can't be bothered to object to Bernie' so he probably has more influence and standing up to the FIA and Team Principles than you probably credit him for.
 
Bernie most definately has a massive influence. It's the FIAs and the teams lack of backbone that is concerning in all of this.

Bernies hair brained ideas are a tactic he uses to get what he wants. But the FIA have tried to make some key decisions too, yet backed down far to easily because people moan. V6 engines and a heavily reduced plan to reduce aero being the most recent.
 
Anyway...back on topic.

His back...Kobayashi :)

Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull
Nico Rosberg, Mercedes
Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari
Kevin Magnussen, McLaren
Daniel Juncadella, Force India
Adrian Sutil, Sauber
Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso
Felipe Massa, Williams
Kamui Kobayashi, Caterham
Jules Bianchi, Marussia

The track is wet.
 
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The picture is from this mornings' testing.

I think the hole cut out under the PC logo was from yesterday and the damage further back is from today.
 
I know it's from today, just wondered if they had bothered to repair previous damage or had just sent the car out with the same engine cover.

If it's still overheating when cold & wet, then oh dear.
 
Lewis stated yesterday that the tyres are much more durable this year, although overheating is an issue due to the rears spinning up on corner exit because of the extra torque.

Sounds perfect IMO.
 
Serious problems for Renault it seems. This will surely hurt Red Bull a lot come the start of the season seen as they obviously haven't been able to gather much data on the car...other than it breaks :p
 
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