F1 Testing 2015: Week 1 Jerez

drunkenmaster, back in the day AT&T paid a tiny amount to be title sponsor at Williams. Other sponsors on the car were paying far more. They did it because the 'Value' of a title sponsor is more than just the finances they bring.

Ron is spouting garbage.
 
drunkenmaster, back in the day AT&T paid a tiny amount to be title sponsor at Williams. Other sponsors on the car were paying far more. They did it because the 'Value' of a title sponsor is more than just the finances they bring.

Ron is spouting garbage.

Hopefully not about the new livery at least. Though I was hoping after feedback they would have dipped the wing mirrors in black paint before today at the very least.

Almost over for the day, does it finish at 4pm our time, I presume so as they said Williams were out for the last run of the day. Getting to 150 laps on what was a brand new engine is really really impressive. Doesn't particularly matter that they ran last year, a lot of software bugs will have gone but it is a largely new engine, so no real game stopping bugs is still outstanding work.

Ferrari/Renault have likely made more fundamental changes than merc so not surprising they did less running but as such doing near 50 laps a team is still pretty impressive.

Last year TR managed 15 laps and got as low as a 1:36 time on the first day of testing with that crappy Renault. Mclaren had their end of season test with the Honda AND a media day of testing used and they still came here and did way less than what Renault achieved on their first day and a slower time.
 
Obviously a fantastic day for Mercedes. They won't be even slightly bothered at not being top of the time sheets; this is all about stacking up the laps while they know they can go faster if they need to later. Ferrari and Sauber will be heartened by their times though; both had pretty terrible last seasons.

McLaren and Honda will hardly be delighted at the minimal testing that they've got today but it's not a disaster yet. Compare to the performance of the new engines last season and you can see that they've not actually failed too badly. Still, if they're not managing decent runs by the end of the test then they'll be starting to get seriously worried.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/31059101

"Day one results

Posted at 16:05
1) Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) 1:22.620 60 laps
2) Marcus Ericsson (Sauber) 1:22.777 73 laps
3) Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 1:23.106 157 laps
4) Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull) 1:23.338 35 laps
5) Valtteri Bottas (Williams) 1:23.906 73 laps
6) Carlos Sainz Jr (Toro Rosso) 1:25.327 46 laps
7) Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 1:40.738 6 laps"

Did someone do a Lewis and confuse the journalist? ;)
 
drunkenmaster, back in the day AT&T paid a tiny amount to be title sponsor at Williams. Other sponsors on the car were paying far more. They did it because the 'Value' of a title sponsor is more than just the finances they bring.

Ron is spouting garbage.

Yeah Ron is part of the problem, a bit like Bernie, but Bernie's better with money, oh and people.
 
Rosberg - 157 laps
Ericsson - 73 laps
Bottas - 73 laps
Vettel - 60 laps
Sainz - 46 laps
Ricciardo - 35 laps
Alonso - 6 laps

Giving us

Mercedes 230
Ferrari 133
Renault 81
Honda 6.

Compared to Honda, Ferrari did 20 times as much running and Mercedes did almost 40 times as much running. Also because it wasn't just installation laps that data is far more useful, real speed, real efficiency, real harvesting.

It's not great but so so so predictable. It's not the be all and end all, if Honda get the problems fixed and have it running by the third test they might be in half decent shape for the start of the season however I still believe they will simply not find as many bugs, or have the varied testing to find every single possible way to increase efficiency. Reduced quality testing will hurt them over the entire season.

Time wise nothing to really read in to yet except Honda obviously got no where near full power for their one timed lap and maybe, just maybe you could hint that Sauber may have improved a fair way as their car last year was a dog and throughout testing they were back with Caterham and 5 seconds behind the Mercedes teams and Ferrari.
 
The worst performing car in pre season testing last year went on to be the only non Mercedes to win a race, and come 2nd in the WCC...
 
The worst performing car in pre season testing last year went on to be the only non Mercedes to win a race, and come 2nd in the WCC...

However, RBR did 20 laps total in the first test, Renault did 150 laps...... that has always been my prediction of where the problem comes from, RBR sucked and the other teams weren't great but that is 7.5x the laps for the engine than RBR alone provided. Then the second test onwards there was another team(though not particularly good in that Lotus) providing even more input.

The worst Renault engine on the first day last year did 15 laps and a timed lap 4 seconds faster than the Honda. then you have to factor in aero, they had the best designer of F1 cars pretty much and 4 titles in a row and a good actual car. It had close to the best or maybe even the best aero on the grid along with a weaker engine. It improve dramatically but it was a good car with a meh engine and the other cars doing so many laps helped the engine side MASSIVELY. Honda will not get the same number of laps Renault got and they almost certainly won't have as good an actual car aero/package/breaks/everything else compared to a RBR that was aside from the engine a top car.

Don't forget that Mclaren/HOnda used both the post season test for this engine and their media day testing allowance(or tried to use it), so they had an engine(not specifically this one) at two previous tests effectively to try and get it working with months in between. They made a HUGE point of highlighting how problematic they were but they went away and put a huge amount of work into finding every reason and every fault and fixing it.
 
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Great day today, just back from the circuit. Mercedes and Rosberg were amazing, pushing through all those laps and the car was clearly well within its capabilities. Vettel's fasted lap was pushing pretty hard in comparison, and I don't think that there was much to be gained from looking at the lap times.

First initial batch of photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gregkingston/sets/72157650180187610/

A couple here for easy viewing.

Nico Rosberg by Greg Kingston, on Flickr

Valtteri Bottas by Greg Kingston, on Flickr

Sebastian Vettel by Greg Kingston, on Flickr

Having attended last year's test too I believe that there's a change to the engine note this year. The cars are definitely louder but now they're even more distinctive. The Mercedes has much more of an exhaust note than the others and it is very distinctive.


The McLaren was poor, and immediately reminded me of the struggles that Renault had. It isn't fuelling properly - very rich - and the gear changes are not synchronised well. Lots to do there, and they took delivery of a lot of parts mid-afternoon. Hopefully better luck for Jenson tomorrow.
 
What did you make of the Sauber, it's hard to tell as you say from times but looking at least seasons times they were pushing 4-5 seconds off the pace and back with the RBR(while it sucked) and Caterham/Marussia. It was a dog, the time up along with Ferrari, particularly if the Ferrari was pushing seems impressive by comparison, very impressive. I think it does potentially indicate a really large step forwards for the Sauber.

Did it look good out on track, smooth, fast?

EDIT:- also what did you/the crowd think when it first saw the red bull, paint job wise?
 
Great stuff The_Abyss.

Quality pictures and that Merc actually sounds much better than it did on TV last year.
 
I wasn't to impressed early on with the Sauber, as it appeared to be really struggling with rear end grip, but it seemed to get better as the day went on. By comparison the Mercedes hardly had a twitch all day. Bottas drove pretty well too, as did Sainz Jr until he stopped near the end.

Cracking crowd and atmosphere today, a combination of Alonso driving and a weekend. Going on last year's numbers I reckon there were a good 40,000 fans in today.

The Red Bull just looks a bit silly really. I don't think I can really offer anything more insightful than that!
 
Hehe, just saw your picture of it, still can't tell exactly how big the side pods are, every picture seems to show them different size.

Your pics of the Ferrari and Williams looking effectively down the side pod and through the rear suspension were really good. I was surprised, the Ferrari looks very clean through there compared to the Williams which looks incredibly busy in the same area.
 
I'll take more tomorrow from some different angles, and if I get back in at a reasonable time tonight then I'll put a few different ones up tonight. Hitting the town to 'rehydrate' now :)
 
McLaren ‏@McLarenF1 1 min


So, Ron says our 2015 livery WILL change. RT for orange; FT for red & white... #SizeZeroF1Car

lolol
 
"The problems that we’re experiencing today are really stemming from the tense packaging that goes on inside the engine. At this moment in time we don’t have exact understanding, but we've got some sensors that aren't talking correctly to other parts of the system. Therefore, whilst we can turn them off and circumvent them, this is what testing’s about so right now the guys are disassembling the car again to try and eliminate some short-circuiting on some sensors.
"Nothing’s overheating, which is normally what happens when you get it wrong on packaging, we’ve got no burning of heat shields. There is every indication that the mechanical design of the car has been well executed."

"Our race engines are two or three steps away from where we are now, therefore we’re still running development engines and will continue to run development engines through to the last test.

"The engine is an integral part of our size zero policy. The car is phenomenally tightly packaged in the back end, which has given huge scope to Peter and his team and they have taken full advantage of it.

"The level of detail and the precision of manufacturer of the components has surpassed anything any McLaren standards of the past. The elegance of some of the aerodynamic solutions as they’re packaged into suspension, brake ducts is done to a level we’ve never been able to achieve before."

- Ron
 
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