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Failed AMD FX 8350 installation

Entry level, though it's very expensive on OCUK. If you look for it elsewhere make sure it's the grey model (not the blue one) and that it has the VRM cooling. This board will get you from stock-4.5ghz. Maybe a little less but it will definitely hold stock clocks worst case.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...0a-socket-am3-ddr3-motherboard-mb-457-gi.html

Mid range. Currently out of stock but I'm sure you will find one if you look hard enough. I had 4.5ghz out of my 8320 on one of these but I only had a Scythe Ninja so it was temps keeping me from higher clocks.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-m5a97-r2.0-amd-970-socket-am3-ddr3-motherboard-mb-501-as.html

High end. Sky is the limit with the right cooling.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ocket-am3-ddr3-atx-motherboard-mb-560-as.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...fx-socket-am3-ddr3-motherboard-mb-576-as.html

Boards that are in between. This is a nice board, 6 phases.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-970-gaming-amd-970-socket-am3-ddr3-atx-motherboard-mb-286-ms.html

Also the Asrock Fatal1ty is a decent 6 phase board too. It usually comes in around £99 or so.
 
Well this morning I bought:
Asus Sabretooth R2.0
H60 Corsair cooler
Corsair case
250GB SSD

Will re-install OS on SSD, build everything in new case and i'll post results when done! Thanks for all your help, many opinions and disagreements but the main conclusion was that my motherboard could not handle my CPU.

Thanks.
 
H60 is useless on AMD dude, send it back. I had one on my original 8320 and it could barely hold stock clocks.

For AMD FX 8 you need a double rad like the H100 or a dual thick 120 rad like the H80i.

They don't get terribly hot (around 73c is freeze city) but they get there fast when they are loaded up.
 
ALXAndy said:
H60 is useless on AMD dude, send it back. I had one on my original 8320 and it could barely hold stock clocks.

For AMD FX 8 you need a double rad like the H100 or a dual thick 120 rad like the H80i.

They don't get terribly hot (around 73c is freeze city) but they get there fast when they are loaded up.
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yea I'm thinking of flipping my ih80 for h15 - its a big chunk of air cooler but they seem for some reason to do a better job on these coolers :D
 
ALXAndy said:
H60 is useless on AMD dude, send it back. I had one on my original 8320 and it could barely hold stock clocks.

For AMD FX 8 you need a double rad like the H100 or a dual thick 120 rad like the H80i.

They don't get terribly hot (around 73c is freeze city) but they get there fast when they are loaded up.
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I read they work great on an 8350... ahhh too many opinions lol!! Surely a £60 cooler is better than stock though?
 
Leem92 said:
I read they work great on an 8350... ahhh too many opinions lol!! Surely a £60 cooler is better than stock though?
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It is better than stock and it will run the cpu at stock speeds. But try to overclock even just a tiny bit and it's not going to cut it at all. It's pushing the edge already :)

The H60 is about the worst cooler you can get as a AIO and most air coolers of the same price are better than it.
 
Leem92 said:
I read they work great on an 8350... ahhh too many opinions lol!! Surely a £60 cooler is better than stock though?
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No, not opinions, fact. The H60 is barely any better than the stock cooler on 8 core AMDs. That's not my opinion that is fact. I had to upgrade to a H100 before I could do anything meaningful.

Also, you have now fallen into the "throw good money after bad" scenario because what you have now spent on the CPU and board could have bought you something like a 4670k and board. This is why I specifically pointed out that you had a few options earlier in the thread.

A few months ago things were very different. However Intel have now flooded the market with so many options that a FX 8 really isn't a great option any more. By the time you have spent on making sure the FX 8 overclocks and doesn't throttle you could have gone with Intel which will spank the FX 8 in pretty much everything.

If you're into VMware and other similar apps then the FX 8 is still a great CPU to have. But gaming? Intel pretty much have AMD closed down at every option.
 
I ran a KRAKEN X31 on an FX-9590, it was adequate to run 4.8Ghz, not brilliant but not bad either.

It now runs my 4690K at 4.7Ghz.
 
ALXAndy said:
A few months ago things were very different. However Intel have now flooded the market with so many options that a FX 8 really isn't a great option any more. By the time you have spent on making sure the FX 8 overclocks and doesn't throttle you could have gone with Intel which will spank the FX 8 in pretty much everything.

If you're into VMware and other similar apps then the FX 8 is still a great CPU to have. But gaming? Intel pretty much have AMD closed down at every option.
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This.
 
ALXAndy said:
No, not opinions, fact. The H60 is barely any better than the stock cooler on 8 core AMDs. That's not my opinion that is fact. I had to upgrade to a H100 before I could do anything meaningful.

Also, you have now fallen into the "throw good money after bad" scenario because what you have now spent on the CPU and board could have bought you something like a 4670k and board. This is why I specifically pointed out that you had a few options earlier in the thread.

A few months ago things were very different. However Intel have now flooded the market with so many options that a FX 8 really isn't a great option any more. By the time you have spent on making sure the FX 8 overclocks and doesn't throttle you could have gone with Intel which will spank the FX 8 in pretty much everything.

If you're into VMware and other similar apps then the FX 8 is still a great CPU to have. But gaming? Intel pretty much have AMD closed down at every option.
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4670k + Intel mobo + installation = £400+
AMD mobo + installation = £160?

Also here is FX-8350 vs 4690k in 9 different games.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QPpIqo-YY
All I want is for my PC to be back at 200+ FPS.. i'm getting 40 because of mobo...

My little brother has an i5 with gtx 960 and it strains my eyes and my computer runs a lot better (off game) although, it is good for CS:GO.
 
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I have to say +1 ^^^^

Desktop experience is a bit more fluid and snappy on the FX CPU's.

For the vast majority of games the performance between them is negligible, interestingly.... and if you watch that YouTube carefully you can see in some parts the FX is actually that bit faster than the i5, while the i5 is that bit faster in other area's.

This was my experience too, the same game treats these two CPU's differently, where low threaded performance is an advantage the i5 has it, where multi-threaded performance is the key the FX has it, this happens in the same game, even on the same map depending on which way you are looking and what's going on.

DX9 games, like World Of Tanks and for me World Of Warships the i5 is better, i used to get dips into the high 40's with the 9590 but not so with the i5.

Personally i think too much of a downer is put on the FX series CPU's, yes they are old... a bit power hungry, but the performance of them (or lack there of) is grossly over exaggerated, even by some reviewers who it often looks like they deliberately look for the part of the game where its at its worst vs the Intel and ignore where the FX is best vs the same CPU.

Edit: this one served me well.... https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt...t-120mm-variable-speed-control-hs-012-nx.html
 
humbug said:
I have to say +1 ^^^^

Desktop experience is a bit more fluid and snappy on the FX CPU's.

For the vast majority of games the performance between them is negligible, interestingly.... and if you watch that YouTube carefully you can see in some parts the FX is actually that bit faster than the i5, while the i5 is that bit faster in other area's.

This was my experience too, the same game treats these two CPU's differently, where low threaded performance is an advantage the i5 has it, where multi-threaded performance is the key the FX has it, this happens in the same game, even on the same map depending on which way you are looking and what's going on.

DX9 games, like World Of Tanks and for me World Of Warships the i5 is better, i used to get dips into the high 40's with the 9590 but not so with the i5.

Personally i think too much of a downer is put on the FX series CPU's, yes they are old... a bit power hungry, but the performance of them (or lack there of) is grossly over exaggerated, even by some reviewers who it often looks like they deliberately look for the part of the game where its at its worst vs the Intel and ignore where the FX is best vs the same CPU.

Edit: this one served me well.... https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt...t-120mm-variable-speed-control-hs-012-nx.html
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Yeah there's a lot of AMD haters.. but for some reason I like them.. maybe because they're the underdog!

Also would I not be better getting a 240mm dual water cooling cooler for OCing?
 
Leem92 said:
Yeah there's a lot of AMD haters.. but for some reason I like them.. maybe because they're the underdog!

Also would I not be better getting a 240mm dual water cooling cooler for OCing?
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well, the bigger the better, what motherboard?
 
Leem92 said:
Asus Sabertooth R2.0

I've read a bit and I am now thinking the Noctua NH-D15 - It has crazy amounts of positive reviews.
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Sweet, i had the Rev-1, absolutely solid, great Board.

The Noctua NH-D15 is a great cooler. but MooASSIVE...
 
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Leem if you search this forum (cpu section) you will find our overclocking FX thread which myself and Andy have posted loads into.

I am posting on my 8320 which is over 2 yrs old now stable an using efficiency settings on 4.5Ghz.

The posters you are currently reading have all championed the FX at some stage, however you wont get support if you base the rig on a chocolate teapot motherboard. :)
 
Leem92 said:
Yeah there's a lot of AMD haters.. but for some reason I like them.. maybe because they're the underdog!

Also would I not be better getting a 240mm dual water cooling cooler for OCing?
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240mm will just cool about as well as D15......maybe slightly less. why I'm looking at moving from ih80 to d15.....yep its massive but its one of the best coolers out there :D

Humbug is completely right - there is a lot I can do more of with 8320e than with my i7 from work.......mostly tends to be when I'm running a lot of programs; or recording and gaming at the same time.....

a lot of older games of course run better on Intel; there is no doubt about that; but like in CS if you're getting 200 frames with AMD and 210 with Intel........at that range you really aren't going to notice the difference :)


I'd send back the h60 and get the d15 :)
 
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