Fake hate crime: Jussie Smollett paid two Nigerian brothers to attack him

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Just double checked I hadn't clicked on the wrong thread, was expecting to read views on the Jussie Smollet case but was faced with a wall of Trump based text :(

I guess it kind of blends a bit because Smollett's hoax was a calculated attack on Trump and Trump supporters, he's a politically active figure with ties to Democrat party leadership and the "attack" was used by leading Democrat figures and supporters as an attack on Trump. Hard to clearly separate the topics as it's directly a part of this. In fact the attack doesn't really make sense outside of this context given his statements about "they were shouting MAGA Country" and various "connect the dots" statements based on his attack. In responding when people comment about Trump, I am trying to focus on how it pertains to current racial identity politics in the USA, which this is inextricably a part of being done by Smollett to push exactly that. I really recommend that last video if it helps - it's a great examination of the pushing of a fake narrative of oppression which is what Smollett did.
 
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400 hoax attacks, a thread about an actual real example of one, but sure - baseless. Nice little slur there, by the way. "Lackeys". :rolleyes:

Remind me again, what does the Russia investigation have to do with this? 400 attacks? Oh no - that must represent such a huge problem compared to; police brutality, racial divide, black & minority people been shopped for selling water or using a swimming pool etc. Let's be honest, we all know why you lot are practically frothing at the mouth in this thread - it feeds into your narrative perfectly. Always the victim, poor little us - we have it so hard, conspiracy something something, what about Hillary. Are there instances of people reporting false rape accusations or hate crimes? Absolutely. Have some tried to defend this guy (eg The Guardian)? Hilariously - yes. Is there a significantly more prominent issue of you know....decades of men fondling their way through companies, a rise in right wing hate crimes, minorities disproportionately been targeted etc? Judging by this thread - hell no. If we don't address situations like Jussie (can I just add this is a silly name), the world will end.

Did I hurt your widdle feelings? Why don't you run off to your Breitbart comments safe space, I'm sure someone will pat you on the back there and make you feel better. We have had years of your ridiculousness; baseless statements, whataboutery and goalpost logistics. And you wonder why some of you are banned in SC.....let me guess - Hillary?

Edit - admittedly some of the mental gymnastics his supporters are doing is quite frankly ridiculous.
 
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Did I hurt your widdle feelings? Why don't you run off to your Breitbart comments safe space, I'm sure someone will pat you on the back there and make you feel better. We have had years of your ridiculousness; baseless statements, whataboutery and goalpost logistics. And you wonder why some of you are banned in SC.....let me guess - Hillary?

EDIT: Originally I just put a smiley because the above made me laugh. But on reflection, that's not very constructive and probably just reinforces your preconceptions. So instead I'll say, no my feelings are not hurt (and I have yuge feelings, not widdle ones. ;)). I don't believe I've engaged in any "goalpost logistics" anywhere in this thread or made any statements that are baseless. You are welcome to point them out to me if you find one. In short, you have this idea that we're all slavering bigots. We are not what you think. And Jussie's attack was calculated to create more people like you who see bigotry where it isn't. To create an impression of bigotry where there wasn't was the point of the hoax, after all.
 
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I believe this is on topic. It's a video on how faking racism was used as a strategy to power at Evergreen College. Some will probably have heard of Bret Weinstein or seen video of him being harranged by a mob of students for refusing to participate in a day of "No White People". I had. But I had never seen the background that built to this and seen how well-organized and structured it was.

Apologies that it's half-an-hour long as it's part of a proper documentary. But better than 90% of the stuff that's on TV. Really recommend watching the whole thing. It'll scare the crap out of any thinking person.

Bret Weinstein was on the Rubin Report back in November and he discusses 'life after Evergreen', which includes some interesting insight into the whole debacle — well worth a listen. Thanks for the link to the YouTube video — I'm going to try and work my way through the whole Mike Nayna playlist.
 
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EDIT: Originally I just put a smiley because the above made me laugh. But on reflection, that's not very constructive and probably just reinforces your preconceptions. So instead I'll say, no my feelings are not hurt (and I have yuge feelings, not widdle ones. ;)). I don't believe I've engaged in any "goalpost logistics" anywhere in this thread or made any statements that are baseless. You are welcome to point them out to me if you find one. In short, you have this idea that we're all slavering bigots. We are not what you think. And Jussie's attack was calculated to create more people like you who see bigotry where it isn't. To create an impression of bigotry where there wasn't was the point of the hoax, after all.

Lets get one thing straight, I don't condone what he's done and absolutely think they should throw the book at him (providing he's found guilty but you'd assume the police have something fairly concrete to go down this avenue) because it makes a complete mockery of a real problem and is a callous thing to do.

As for the rest - yourself and the others all have a history of doing those exact things in the Trump thread, a thread some of you are banned from and unsuprisingly why they are more likely to make a random post/thread in GD to continue it.
 
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You are absolutely right, this was a (mis)calculated attempt to make Trump, and his supporters, look bad. The main reason I can see is that Karmarla Harris, and the Democrats, is trying to pass gun control legislation, and it looks like they are both related(she is his aunt supposedly(https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1098009209071902722)). The guy that released this info' was called Terrance Williams(https://twitter.com/w_terrence?lang=en) and soon after was in a car accident that broke his neck, he looks like he'll make a full recovery - may be coincidence, but iffy non the less.

So with this attempt the left has made themselves both biggots and racist, exactly what they were trying to pin on the right 'red neck' MAGA Trump supporter types. Yes the right has racists too, but as you can now see that the left has their far share too. And yes, black people CAN be racist.

He did this because a racist letter that he supposedly sent himself didn't get enough air time so he felt he had to 'up the anti' so to speak. I don't buy that it was to increase his salary, or to keep him in the show, I think he wanted to do it to help out his Aunt, and by extension the Democrats, to get a bill through congress.

There is an epidemic of fake news out there at the moment, this and the Covington kids come to mind in the last few weeks, all to demonise the right/Republicans and the Trump supporting deplorables. News is not news any more it's activism, they are using fake stories to push an agenda all because they are butt hurt because HRC failed, again, to become POTUS. When there isn't enough genuine stories they make up their own to fit the narrative, the more it happens the more people see through it - it's becomming obvious to even the normies.. Sad times.
 
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When there aren't enough genuine stories they make up their own to fit the narrative, the more it happens the more people see through it - it's becoming obvious to even the normies. Sad times.

It certainly is sad times.

The thing is, there are plenty of genuine stories — they don't need to make this **** up. Ultimately it's actually counterproductive to their cause.

The polarisation of the two main parties and the rise of identity politics in the US and the UK is very worrying.
 
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It certainly is sad times.

The thing is, there are plenty of genuine stories — they don't need to make this **** up. Ultimately it's actually counterproductive to their cause.

The polarisation of the two main parties and the rise of identity politics in the US and the UK is very worrying.

Yeh, like this that happened today. Attacks on Trump supporters happen all the time, but don't get covered (goes against poltical agenda)


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This is the reason why people like Jussie have to orchestrate fake attacks to make it seem like they're the victims. When in fact this is what they do all the time, and they have to cover it up by faking attacks on them to make it seem that it's Trump supporters that are the intolerent ones. That's not to say it doesn't happen from the other side, but the level of intolerence from the left is insane. Media purposely brainwashing the masses to make them think that Trump and all supporters are (insert 100 adjectives here) which is 90% of the trouble

Look how they orchestrated Charlottesville with the fake nazis and forced confrontation which resulted in someone getting killed. You only had to watch every single news channel harp on about it for months to notice that this was their orchestrated smear job
 
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Look how they orchestrated Charlottesville with the fake nazis and forced confrontation which resulted in someone getting killed. You only had to watch every single news channel harp on about it for months to notice that this was their orchestrated smear job

This is why you sound like a nutter.
 
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When have you even seen far right, skinhead "nazis" all holding tiki torches in unison, look like baby faced, soy drinking lefties?

Jason Kessler is the guy who organised the event, and guess what. He wrote for CNN back in 2011

Nice staging and professionaly taken shots

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You think these look like Trump supporters?


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This is why you sound like a nutter.

As he tango0 correctly points out the political history of Jason Kessler is well known and does raise some rather interesting queastions about what was actually going on at the 'unite the right' gathering ...

Large sections of the supposed 'alt right' have very little to do with the rest of the right (especially in the more American sense of small goverment conservatism) and are in fact just socialists of the national persuasion like 'alt right' poster boy, and socialism fan Richard Spencer



People like Kessler and Spencer are ideologically closer to the nutter fringe of the Democrats than the Republicans (and in Kessler case not only ideologically but formerly by direct association)

Simply put like Covington, like Jussie Smollett like the fake Times magazine Trump/Guatemalan girl story we are being fed an (often fake) narrative by the media rather then receiving anything approaching news reporting and people are starting to wake up to this
 
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As he tango0 correctly points out the political history of Jason Kessler is well known and does raise some rather interesting queastions about what was actually going on at the 'unite the right' gathering ...

Large sections of the supposed 'alt right' have very little to do with the rest of the right (especially in the more American sense of small goverment conservatism) and are in fact just socialists of the national persuasion like 'alt right' poster boy, and socialism fan Richard Spencer



People like Kessler and Spencer are ideologically closer to the nutter fringe of the Democrats than the Republicans (and in Kessler case not only ideologically but formerly by direct association)

Simply put like Covington, like Jussie Smollett like the fake Times magazine Trump/Guatemalan girl story we are being fed an (often fake) narrative by the media rather then receiving anything approaching news reporting and people are starting to wake up to this

Was the guy who drove his car into a crowd of people a socialist as well Caracus?
 
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Lol at falling for such nonsense, he’s clearly taking the incorrect trope that nazism was socialist, it was centrist authoritarian at best perhaps slightly libertarian if you were German descent.

So easily led and you call everyone else sheeples, hilarious.

2020 baby. ;)
 
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Lol at falling for such nonsense, he’s clearly taking the incorrect trope that nazism was socialist, it was centrist authoritarian at best perhaps slightly libertarian if you were German descent.

So easily led and you call everyone else sheeples, hilarious.

Actually he was saying that James Fields thought the Nazis were socialist. To be precise. Quite a different argument. Unless of course you think that nobody considers the Nazis socialist or that James Fields was too 'intelligent' to believe such.
 
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Don’t start this revisionist nonsense again.

Revisionist nonsence?

Strange isn't it that the mainstream press turned straight to expressed socialists like Spencer for comment on his actions given you think there is no link here?

 
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