Fake hate crime: Jussie Smollett paid two Nigerian brothers to attack him

[ianh]

If found guilty (all important) I'd guess he'll get around 2 years but only serve about 6 months.

If the right wing try to say the kids did nothing, holding them up as pariahs, then that's exploiting them.

I see your point but I prefer the term "telling the truth about their actions" myself but you know potato/tomato etc

 

[mmj_uk]

Wrong thread.

 

[RaohNS]

So using kids in the opposite direction is cool to you then? I believe they should sue, but.

It’s the exact value of Washington post, it’s clearly engineered.

The issue Strider is these kids had thousands of death threats/threats to bombs school/were doxxed. This was directly as a result of deliberate fake news because a white christian child was wearing his support for Trump.

Are you another poster OK with children facing threats of violence and death threats and having their lives ruined?

Maybe a few cases like this will make [particularly left wing] press getting the situation straight.

Again, this was done as an attempt to tarnish all Trump supporters as racist/white supremacist bigots. You only have to look at people like doodah and CRAZY in the Trump Derangement thread. It's pretty much a given he believes Trump supporters are actual Nazis. It's this mentality that's the problem.

I trust you realize people are now starting - after 2yrs - to push back. I had contact school over comments being made by a History teacher of all things saying Trump was like Hitler. You have to make a stand.

 

[StriderX]

The issue Strider is these kids had thousands of death threats/threats to bombs school/were doxxed. This was directly as a result of deliberate fake news because a white christian child was wearing his support for Trump.

Are you another poster OK with children facing threats of violence and death threats and having their lives ruined?

Maybe a few cases like this will make [particularly left wing] press getting the situation straight.

Again, this was done as an attempt to tarnish all Trump supporters as racist/white supremacist bigots. You only have to look at people like doodah and CRAZY in the Trump Derangement thread. It's pretty much a given he believes Trump supporters are actual Nazis. It's this mentality that's the problem.

I trust you realize people are now starting - after 2yrs - to push back. I had contact school over comments being made by a History teacher of all things saying Trump was like Hitler. You have to make a stand.

He’s a authoritarian leader with delusions of grandeur for white america. Comparing things to hitler might be a pitiful thing, but he’s certainly closer than he should be to the comparison.

The senate having no oversight and protecting him while his policies rack up huge deficits, means all their grandstanding prior was a lie.

Taking a stand against what? Because it can’t be tyranny.

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

Indeed, I think people that still support trump are utter scum and horrible human-beings. Not all trump supporters are racists/nazis but most racist/nazis are trump supporters

 

[h4rm0ny]

Indeed, I think people that still support trump are utter scum and horrible human-beings. Not all trump supporters are racists/nazis but most racist/nazis are trump supporters

I see substantially more racism on the Left than the Right in US politics. It's "White this" and "White that". And Heaven forbid that you dare disagree with the Democratic party as a Black person. The Democrats LOVE to declare your politics should follow your race.

https://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/...rter-calls-black-reporter-uncle-tom/85149362/

Sadly not that atypical a reaction from Leftist / Democrat to any "minorities" that don't accept their assigned position.

 

[Thecaferacer]

Trump is no authoritarian, he's too lazy! He literally preaches to people to do whatever they like. The left are the authoritarians these days, obey or agree with what we say or we will ruin your life.

 

[Caracus2k]

He’s a authoritarian

One of the problems with the west and particularly people who have English as a first language is a lot of them have very little concept of what words like 'nazi' and 'authoritarian' mean other than in the lazy pejorative sense (as a synonym for someone I don't like or disagree with politically) .

Trump may be a demagogue but an authoritarian and/or nazi he is not.

 

[StriderX]

One of the problems with the west and particularly people who have English as a first language is a lot of them have very little concept of what words like 'nazi' and 'authoritarian' mean other than in the lazy pejorative sense (as a synonym for someone I don't like or disagree with politically) .

Trump may be a demagogue but an authoritarian and/or nazi he is not.

He’s constantly abused executive orders for pitiful things when he ‘could have’ done it through Congress and the Senate.

He’s constantly annoyed at personal jabs at him and probably wishes he could inprison people like Xi can for calling him unfortunate names, on many occasions he’s proven that’s desirable.

Said nothing about his personal SS (ICE, hyperbolic) raping people on the border either. People who he implied were terrorists (weren’t) or criminals (aren’t).

Signs bibles for Alabama victims in hurricane season, but totally ghosts American citizens in Costa Rica and the east coast in general. A president should not show favouritism. And ghosts on khashogi and other American citizens currently being tortured.

He certainly wishes the US was his personal kingdom (thankfully there are enough courses of action to deal with his abuse), just because it isn’t, doesn’t exclude him from being one.

 

[Caracus2k]

He’s constantly abused executive orders for pitiful things when he ‘could have’ done it through Congress and the Senate.

No he couldn't have done them through the senate and Congress because like a certain thread in SC they are majority populated by people who don't want to consider individual issues on their merits but rather have an agenda to block and obstruct everything they can that comes out of the Republican party (including positions they previously supported) . And he repeatedly gets blocked anyway when he has (sometimes inadvisably or wrongly) tried to use such powers

He’s constantly annoyed at personal jabs at him and probably wishes he could inprison people like Xi can for calling him unfortunate names, on many occasions he’s proven that’s desirable.

Again you don't know what authoritarian means being easily agitated or provoked on social media does not make a person an authoritarian. The rest is largely conjecture on your point and it's the people on Democrat fringes who show more worrying signs re wanting to shut others up... There's a very big relative lack of left wing people being shutdown by groups that oppose them.

Said nothing about his personal SS (ICE) raping people on the border either.

Isolated bad cases aside I'm sure your aware that the statistics suggest that it's the traffickers doing the illegal migration into the US that's are the perpetrators ofa lot of sexual assaults on women. But like the Democrats you don't care about that right when you make sure that issue keeps going on?

Amnesty International reported in 2010 that the proportion of women and girls who are sexually assaulted over the course of their journey might be as high as 60%

Instead choosing to make facile comparisons between the SS and Ice....

Pro tip: the SS spent a lot of their time trying to prevent people leaving the area they had authority over (unless it was to shuffle of their mortal coil) Ice on the other hand are tasked with assisting with immigration control, a function any working country currently engages in.

 

[h4rm0ny]

He’s constantly abused executive orders for pitiful things when he ‘could have’ done it through Congress and the Senate.

Without looking, please make a guess as to how many times Obama used an Executive Order to bypass congressional approval. Also, see if you can pick the instances that he did so.

He’s constantly annoyed at personal jabs at him and probably wishes he could inprison people like Xi can for calling him unfortunate names, on many occasions he’s proven that’s desirable.

Is this still part of your argument that Trump is authoritarian? That he doesn't like being called a Nazi or something? Because (a) it shows you don't understand what an authoritarian leader actually is and (b) the guy must have a skin thicker than a rhino's because most of us couldn't stand one DAY of the national media declaring us as a racist without losing it. Your suggestion that he is hypersensitive in some way is moronic. He's possibly the most insulted man on Earth and he keeps on smiling.

Said nothing about his personal SS (ICE, hyperbolic) raping people on the border either. People who he implied were terrorists (weren’t) or criminals (aren’t).

As you say: hyperbolic. Nor are immigration services his personal anything. Also, who do you think he implied were terrorists or criminals. Guarantee it's something he either didn't say or that they were.

Signs bibles for Alabama victims in hurricane season, but totally ghosts American citizens in Costa Rica and the east coast in general. A president should not show favouritism. And ghosts on khashogi and other American citizens currently being tortured.

I'm not sure what signing a bible when someone asks him to has to do with anything, but lack of diplomatic repurcussions for Saudi behaviour we can actually agree on. Unfortunately that's true of pretty much all Western heads of State and for some reason it's Trump you single out. So I'm going to put that down to you being selectively outraged. Also, STILL not seeing how this supports your claims he is authoritarian.

He certainly wishes the US was his personal kingdom (thankfully there are enough courses of action to deal with his abuse), just because it isn’t, doesn’t exclude him from being one.

And I'm discounting evidence from your personal telepathic powers as well.

You're done. You have nothing.

 

[chroniclard]

Trumps a massive tyrant man baby, if you dont do as you are told you get fired.

 

[wellsy]

Tbf Diddums, the fact that you’re sitting on the forum ready to unleash your witty replies at half one in the morning means you’re not exactly spending your Saturday night in a haze of whisky, drugs and questionable women either.

Lmao!

 

[RaohNS]

He’s a authoritarian leader with delusions of grandeur for white america.

I never knew that! Do you have evidence of him making such statements or his actions making a clear connection to this scurrilous claim? Is this another post of you knowing what is in Trumps head?

Comparing things to hitler might be a pitiful thing, but he’s certainly closer than he should be to the comparison.

In what way?
Has he taken over private enterprise? Taken control of guns? Disbanded branches of Government? Declared war on neighboring states? Provided the accessibility for genocide? Imprisoned Political opponents? (Democrats have used investigation to investigate people and then imprisoned political opponents, mind)

The senate having no oversight and protecting him while his policies rack up huge deficits, means all their grandstanding prior was a lie.

What about the $90,000,000,000,000 Green New Deal?

Taking a stand against what? Because it can’t be tyranny.

Have you read any books on the subject Strider? Learned more than a Headline? Do you realize tyranny takes hold through I) abuse of power and ii) that power not being challenged.

Indeed, I think people that still support trump are utter scum and horrible human-beings. Not all trump supporters are racists/nazis but most racist/nazis are trump supporters

Here is a perfect example of a poster who is both prejudiced and discriminatory. A poster who believes his own nonsense and tarnishes a whole group of people with a certain viewpoint. This is an example of a person who should I) be denied power and ii) have that power reigned in and stood up against.

 

[mmj_uk]

It's the political left and Democrats who seem to have full control over schools/universities (youth brainwashing), media (fake news) and corporations (social media censorship, boycotting and termination of services) and yet people still call Trump an authoritarian. Obama used the FISA programme and colluded with senior people at intelligence agencies (those you hear about in the news calling Trump a dictator) to spy on the Trump election campaign and they've been using a fake Russian collusion investigation ever since to avoid having to answer questions about it under oath, seriously guys watch some of the investigations on FISA abuse all it is is "I can't comment on that while there is an ongoing investigation". The reason you all haven't heard about it is because fake news won't report it.

 

[RaohNS]

It's the political left and Democrats who seem to have full control over schools/universities (youth brainwashing), media (fake news) and corporations (social media censorship, boycotting and termination of services) and yet people still call Trump an authoritarian. Obama used the FISA programme and colluded with senior people at intelligence agencies (those you hear about in the news calling Trump a dictator) to spy on the Trump election campaign and they've been using a fake Russian collusion investigation ever since to avoid having to answer questions about it under oath, seriously guys watch some of the investigations on FISA abuse all it is is "I can't comment on that while there is an ongoing investigation". The reason you all haven't heard about it is because fake news won't report it.

An easy thing to corroborate but it means undoing dogmatic ideology that undoes everything. The below image is pretty much the summation of virulent anti-Trump people like Doodah/CRAZY/Strider/Raymond Lin/Yas (insurance fraudster wannabe)/DP

 

[StriderX]

It's the political left and Democrats who seem to have full control over schools/universities (youth brainwashing), media (fake news) and corporations (social media censorship, boycotting and termination of services) and yet people still call Trump an authoritarian. Obama used the FISA programme and colluded with senior people at intelligence agencies (those you hear about in the news calling Trump a dictator) to spy on the Trump election campaign and they've been using a fake Russian collusion investigation ever since to avoid having to answer questions about it under oath, seriously guys watch some of the investigations on FISA abuse all it is is "I can't comment on that while there is an ongoing investigation". The reason you all haven't heard about it is because fake news won't report it.

The same investigation that literally doesn’t say collusion at all in the initial document?

Humorous.

Regardless trump may not be hitler, he’s too dumb for that, considering he hid his school grades from scrutiny after massively failing to insult his arch nemesis. But his constant failure will be my amusement.

See you next year when his 32+ indictment swamp ******** unravels.

 

[RaohNS]

The same investigation that literally doesn’t say collusion at all in the initial document?

The same document signed by Clinton Victory Party attendee Rod Rosenstein? That same signatory who wanted to secretly record the President and then collude with other corrupt FBI officials to try and remove the President? That beacon of integrity and impartiality?

Regardless trump may not be hitler, he’s too dumb for that,

But smart enough to beat the "most qualified person to ever run for President"

considering he hid his school grades from scrutiny after massively failing to insult his arch nemesis. But his constant failure will be my amusement.

You can literally smell your hatred for him coming through the device.

See you next year when his 32+ indictment swamp ******** unravels.

And next year when he wins... You will be the type to blame because your arrogance knows no bounds?

 

[Roar87]

The same investigation that literally doesn’t say collusion at all in the initial document?

Humorous.

Regardless trump may not be hitler, he’s too dumb for that, considering he hid his school grades from scrutiny after massively failing to insult his arch nemesis. But his constant failure will be my amusement.

See you next year when his 32+ indictment swamp ******** unravels.

He's looking pretty successful to me, the US economy is doing great, he's had talks with Kim Jong-Un which have basically stopped all the mess Obama left behind even if everything isn't completely sorted - we aren't sat fearing a nuclear war, ISIS has been defeated, Russia knows he's not afraid to pull the trigger on air strikes against their allies if he's pushed. I'd like him to do more against social media companies pushing their own political agenda but he's been great so far.

 

[VincentHanna]

No he couldn't have done them through the senate and Congress because like a certain thread in SC they are majority populated by people who don't want to consider individual issues on their merits but rather have an agenda to block and obstruct everything they can that comes out of the Republican party (including positions they previously supported) . And he repeatedly gets blocked anyway when he has (sometimes inadvisably or wrongly) tried to use such powers

You seem to be conveniently forgetting that the republicans controlled both houses for two years.