FAO Fox

Toker · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:23

something good was happening and still is, but it's about to get very good which will also reflect in the share price

do your research

[TW]Fox · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:24

You are awesome. You really are.

Do you have any idea who Tata are? Thats also not 'The Tata'. You've basically said something alone the lines of 'The company that makes the Ford'.

Emlyn_Dewar · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:24

I'm would really like to see a crash test of that vehicle.

Edit: Guess he didn't read back.

Toker · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:27

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Edit: Guess he didn't read back.

guess not, what a failure

[TW]Fox · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:28

Yea I should constantly re-read previous posts to ensure you've corrected your epic failiure. It wasn't being pedantic at all, it was more the fact the way you worded it showed (And arguably still does) an enormous misunderstanding of exactly who Tata are and their importance on the world stage. You see Tata as 'the company that makes that Nano'. This hugely undervalues them. HUGELY.

Which is not entirely unexpected.

Toker · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:33

[TW]Fox;12424665 said:
Yea I should constantly re-read previous posts to ensure you've corrected your epic failiure. It wasn't being pedantic at all, it was more the fact the way you worded it showed (And arguably still does) an enormous misunderstanding of exactly who Tata are and their importance on the world stage. You see Tata as 'the company that makes that Nano'. This hugely undervalues them. HUGELY.

Which is not entirely unexpected.

you should also re-read your own and correct your epic "failiure".

who tata are is common knowledge and largely I don't care, other than things that effect me, like the fact they are causing companies in the UK to fully out-source projects to them, due to their price, and then fail to deliver and causing the companies to turn to UK based companies to clean up the mess.

If hating the nano means I undervalue them, then so be it - no skin off my nose

[TW]Fox · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:43

Toker said:
who tata are is common knowledge and largely I don't care

You would do well to educate yourself on them before you belittle them, though.

other than things that effect me, like the fact they are causing companies in the UK to fully out-source projects to them, due to their price, and then fail to deliver and causing the companies to turn to UK based companies to clean up the mess.

So they screw up projects meaning UK people get paid to fix them? Sounds good for UK consultancy firms?

If hating the nano means I undervalue them, then so be it - no skin off my nose

Lashout_UK · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:45

Toker · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:48

[TW]Fox;12424765 said:
You would do well to educate yourself on them before you belittle them, though.

saying who they are is common knowledge isn't some sort of code for "I don't know who they are", they are one of our main competitors, of course I know who they are, and I'll still happily "belittle" their IT and motor sectors

[TW]Fox;12424765 said:
So they screw up projects meaning UK people get paid to fix them? Sounds good for UK consultancy firms?

Cleaning up others messes is a pain. Getting the contracts in the first place and starting from scratch isn't.

[TW]Fox · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:52

Who are they then? Quick, reply before you google.

Jonnycoupe · 3 Sep 2008 at 15:57

Toker said:
you should also re-read your own and correct your epic "failiure".

who tata are is common knowledge and largely I don't care, other than things that effect me, like the fact they are causing companies in the UK to fully out-source projects to them,

Ive read that a few times an it makes NO sense.

Tata doesnt force Jaguar LandRover to use there own steel, let alone companies they dont own.

[TW]Fox · 3 Sep 2008 at 16:09

He made a throaway derogatory remark about how his company lost a project to some crappy little company that makes a silly small car, without realising who Tata were and how big they were. None of his backtracking can change this, the way he worded it makes it abundantly clear he knows very little of either Tata or their business practices.

He's usually so quick to reply as well, he's gone away now I've asked him who they are. I suspect he'll come back with a suprisingly well educated response now which will explain the delay

Jonnycoupe · 3 Sep 2008 at 16:11

EDITED for truth. ^^^

[TW]Fox · 3 Sep 2008 at 16:12

Infact the very fact we are now discussing his company, Tata, and his VW Polo in a thread about BMW Z4's rather says all we need to know

Emlyn_Dewar · 3 Sep 2008 at 16:13

That the motors forum likes to argue?

jackoh · 3 Sep 2008 at 16:26

i seen a nano this morning

Emlyn_Dewar · 3 Sep 2008 at 16:28

I've had the Mark Blundell voice in my head for all the "I seen/sawed" comments.

Toker · 3 Sep 2008 at 22:47

Jonnycoupe said:
Ive read that a few times an it makes NO sense.

Tata doesnt force Jaguar LandRover to use there own steel, let alone companies they dont own.

I was referring to TCS, not tata motors

Jonnycoupe · 3 Sep 2008 at 22:55

Who are part of Tata?

How can you say you weren't refering to Tata motors when you mentioned the Nano?

I think you were just raising an obscure point to look 'cool' and in the know but it backfired when people thought WTF

Toker · 3 Sep 2008 at 23:00

[TW]Fox;12424988 said:
He made a throaway derogatory remark about how his company lost a project to some crappy little company that makes a silly small car, without realising who Tata were and how big they were. None of his backtracking can change this, the way he worded it makes it abundantly clear he knows very little of either Tata or their business practices.

He's usually so quick to reply as well, he's gone away now I've asked him who they are. I suspect he'll come back with a suprisingly well educated response now which will explain the delay

I had a couple of things to finish up before the end of the working day and didn't feel compelled to come back on the forum aftewards to say bye, do I need more explanation than that? I'll get a full written justification by my manager as to why I wasn't available to write a response should it be necessary.

I referred to TCS and tata motors as crappy, never little and never did I mention the rest of the tata group. Implying I know nothing about a company who bet us in a bid for a contract a couple of months ago is moronic. Even if I didn't have experiences with them the fact every second lorry you see in india has tata on the side might be a slight giveaway of their magnitude.

I'll say bye this time so people don't get upset - bye