Rightly so as it is nothing to do with the EU and we haven't had a referendum on the ECHR so if she wanted to scrap it I would expect her to make it a manifesto pledge and seek a mandate at general election. Once again leave campaigners not understanding what they have voted for.
Farage
- Thread starter Quartz
- Start date
- Status
Rightly so as it is nothing to do with the EU and we haven't had a referendum on the ECHR so if she wanted to scrap it I would expect her to make it a manifesto pledge and seek a mandate at general election. Once again leave campaigners not understanding what they have voted for.
His exact words are "there is no doubt whatsoever that the UK is a sovereign state under international law"
are you disputing this as merely the opinion of one professor or do you accept that as a widely understood legal fact?
That's a very general question so needs a general answer. They read the sun/mirror/mail and believe what's reported. They believe that we've lost the ability to decide what's best for our country, that our armed forces will be taken away, that we're throwing huge amounts of our money away, that the NHS will have a new hospital a week if we vote to leave...
The lesser educated I would suggest are more likely to believe these things, and believe that likeable buffoon really does want what's best for the country and not just for himself.
Except they are not really being hurt by this immigration that is just a picture painted to make them vote a certain way. It is a trick as old as politics find someone to blame and then rally people behind your cause it works best when those people are a little different to the majority so can be easily singled out.
They should go and try finding a job? If immigrants with little grasp of English can why can't they?
Add to that it's predominantly the low skilled, low earning groups who will be most fearful of losing their jobs to people who can't even speak the native language here. You won't see as many educated and qualified people with that sort of concern.
The question of whether that's really the fault of immigration or the man who can't even get a job ahead of someone who can't speak English is debatable.
Soldato
- Joined
- 31 May 2009
- Posts
- 21,474
Yes scientists, actors, footballers, entertainers all told them to BriLeave
They ignored them too.
No it wasn't, nobody had a crystal ball on this matter, all the self appointed experts and born know alls in the world cannot predict the future. There were risks voting either way, experts, politicians and businesses were all divided. The risks of remaining were too great IMO.
Experts were divided, that makes it sound like an even split, are you really claiming that?
What were the risks of remaining? We can leave the EU anytime we want if it truly does start to go to ****.
The only risk to remaining would be if we had no future choice to leave which was never the case.
No insults, gotcha
Reality is, Nigel Farage gave Britain her sovereignty back. Nigel Farage delivered! Fact is, most British people want him to be a Sir.)
Petition here
https://www.change.org/p/hrh-the-qu...ighthood-for-making-uk-independence-a-reality
Really. We hadn't lost our sovereignty. In fact since it's looking likely that witch May is going to be the next pm, some people might argue we are just about to lose some of our sovereignty
You think a risk averse option was to vote leave?!
Several members on here have repeatedly said if a50 isn't invoked and freedom of movement isn't removed in any deal then there will be blood flowing on the streets.
What am I supposed to think that means? They will get together for a cup of tea and discuss how to change things in the future using their democratic vote?
Associate
- Joined
- 18 Jul 2006
- Posts
- 609
Is this same international law where the ECJ or ECHR can overrule our Supreme Court and stop us from deporting unwanted members of our society from this country.
Again I don't agree with his opinion, however widely accepted that, that we are a sovereign nation in full control.
Thought the s word was banned from use on here?
It is, though really only when aimed at individuals or groups specifically. He's deliberately pushing boundaries though. It's a difficult call
There is plenty more inequality in the UK than what you and plenty more go on about, infact i bet there are millions in this country who feel forgot about, what about the poor and disabled of this country, they have been smashed around for years, where is the equality for them?
Or is it all about the foreigners\immigrants for you and plenty of others?.
Charity begins at home, help your own first, as in British\UK citizens, no matter what colour they are.
Agreed. I do think and have always thought that one day we should leave the eu. This is the wrong time. We should have planned for a few years down the line and come out if we needed to, when we were ready.
- Status