Fee Money for having a LoRaWAN on your house

SeatIbiza said:
Not a chance. On the side of a house?? I've never actually heard of them being attached to a residential property (that isn't a tower block).

I'm negotiating with these criminals right now, they've offered me £1,750 to put a 20m mast on our land based on the che Farm case settled at tribunal in July at that rate. Not sure how they've compared a crappy bit of land the tribunal described as an "unexceptional rural site" to our site in a suburban part of Glasgow, but I guess that is part of the fun. Prior to that case, the tribunals had set the rate for rural locations at £750. The telco's managed to hoodwink/lie to the government that the price of rent was the reason they hadn't improved the quality of our network. In reality it's a mix of greed and laziness. Vodafone UK alone in 2023 made 6.8bn euros (with about 35% profit) yet paying a land owner ~£5k a year is a problem.

the 2017 ECC is what I presume you refer to and that really stitched up land owners. The operators were initially offering £1 a year...
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This is going back a bit, I remember it was when 4G started rolling out so must have been 2012/2013.

Looks like it is still there:

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Sirrel Squirrel said:
This is going back a bit, I remember it was when 4G started rolling out so must have been 2012/2013.

Looks like it is still there:

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Well I never. Not seen that before! It's obviously a mixed use building rather than a house though!

Well the offer I have on the table is £1,750 a year for a 10 year agreement. They will not budge on that based on the Vache Farm tribunal from July (albeit I don't think it is a direct comparable, it is only a bit of land we have). We will see, I supoose money is money and we don't have to do much for it.
 
SeatIbiza said:
Not a chance. On the side of a house?? I've never actually heard of them being attached to a residential property (that isn't a tower block).

I'm negotiating with these criminals right now, they've offered me £1,750 to put a 20m mast on our land based on the che Farm case settled at tribunal in July at that rate. Not sure how they've compared a crappy bit of land the tribunal described as an "unexceptional rural site" to our site in a suburban part of Glasgow, but I guess that is part of the fun. Prior to that case, the tribunals had set the rate for rural locations at £750. The telco's managed to hoodwink/lie to the government that the price of rent was the reason they hadn't improved the quality of our network. In reality it's a mix of greed and laziness. Vodafone UK alone in 2023 made 6.8bn euros (with about 35% profit) yet paying a land owner ~£5k a year is a problem.

the 2017 ECC is what I presume you refer to and that really stitched up land owners. The operators were initially offering £1 a year...
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I agree it sounds excessive for something attached to the side of a house (but it's a proper horrific monster from the image posted :eek:), but one of our sites was certainly getting around £60k/year before the ECC, albeit a full sector deployment with cabin on the rooftop of a 22 story tower block in central London...

Some of the offers after the ECC were ridiculous, especially when paired with the removal of land/building owners' rights to refuse a deployment :( We signed up about 40 sites about 6 months before it went into force :)

Add to that how awful the MNOs are at actually doing anything (15 of our 40 new sites are still bare) along with them not knowing what they've done (O2 thinks it's built out three sites where it hasn't!) or update records (I still get site access requests despite moving to a different role four years ago and telling the MNOs and their contractors a billion* times), I'm glad I jacked it in.

I do miss the comedy complaints and objections. though :cry:

*slight exaggeration
 
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