Yeah im just hoping theyre good and that people arent to bored the first year.
Its not many races, going to take a few years to devlop it properly and everyones using the same car the first year, rather than open championship.
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Yeah im just hoping theyre good and that people arent to bored the first year.
Its not many races, going to take a few years to devlop it properly and everyones using the same car the first year, rather than open championship.
Have you seen the testing video? These things are going to be far from quiet!
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It's a good name to have in definitely, and another British entry 
Only 1 team to go now, so far I think there is some good teams from various backgrounds but at least most of them are known names.
Just looking at the calendar, could do with a South American team now, have 3 races there but as of yet not a team.
Only 1 team to go now, so far I think there is some good teams from various backgrounds but at least most of them are known names.
Just looking at the calendar, could do with a South American team now, have 3 races there but as of yet not a team.
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Just thinking that. Also the (so called foot print) for these cars are bad.
They have to charge all 20 cars before quali then charge all 20 cars again in the afternoon.
That has to cost more then fuel does for a F1 car.
Mind you I can't wait to see the first driver to trip over running for the spare car or the batteries blowing up
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You would hope that for the second stop they would be going back tot he first car, not sure that leaves charging times/changing out batteries though?
3 cars a driver would be a little excessive
I've poked around the site some more and it seems to suggest 2 cars per driver, and 2 drivers per team. So 40 chassis.
That does suggest they will be able to fully charge the cars in 20 minutes, which seems a little optimistic. Unless they are going for battery swapping which could be easily achieved in 20 minutes you would think?
The whole setup does leave me with images of hundreds of batteries and tens of cars all wired up with thousands of meters of cabling charging from massive generators, all hidden by screens and curtains while pretentious blokes in chino's and frameless glasses, presenting on an iPad, tell us how electricity is the green, zero emissions future
That does suggest they will be able to fully charge the cars in 20 minutes, which seems a little optimistic. Unless they are going for battery swapping which could be easily achieved in 20 minutes you would think?
The whole setup does leave me with images of hundreds of batteries and tens of cars all wired up with thousands of meters of cabling charging from massive generators, all hidden by screens and curtains while pretentious blokes in chino's and frameless glasses, presenting on an iPad, tell us how electricity is the green, zero emissions future
40 cars (well 42 thats how many they ordered) with rapid charging the first car.
As and when charging/battery technology gets better then swapping cars wont be needed.
http://www.fia.com/championship/fia-formula-e-championship/2013/fia-formula-e-championship
And yes electricity is the green zero future. Even with the current grid, its still significantly greener than petrol, and the grid is getting more renewable every year.
And of course theres the qaulcomm halo, which may appear as soon as the second season. Where they install charging pads along the racetrack, so they don't need to stop.
However i hope they don't go this route, as it kind of makes pushing battery and recharging tech pointless. Rather use wireless charging in the garages.
As at the moment theres no rules on how much capacity the batteries can have. So in future years, teams can build there own and use experimental batteries that have 2,5 even 10 times the current capacity.
As and when charging/battery technology gets better then swapping cars wont be needed.
http://www.fia.com/championship/fia-formula-e-championship/2013/fia-formula-e-championship
And yes electricity is the green zero future. Even with the current grid, its still significantly greener than petrol, and the grid is getting more renewable every year.
And of course theres the qaulcomm halo, which may appear as soon as the second season. Where they install charging pads along the racetrack, so they don't need to stop.
However i hope they don't go this route, as it kind of makes pushing battery and recharging tech pointless. Rather use wireless charging in the garages.
As at the moment theres no rules on how much capacity the batteries can have. So in future years, teams can build there own and use experimental batteries that have 2,5 even 10 times the current capacity.
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Nothing will be green zero ever. I mean you have to go back to the power station then back again to what runs it ect ect.
I can see electricity being the way forward in 15 years time but not with batteries most likely a turbine built into the car.
Just lol.
Once the grid goes green, then you look back at what builds it, which will be the grid. This will off course take many decades to complete.
Youll still of co2 from concrete and mining etc. but actual power will be zero and once that happens, we don't need to worry about co2 from mining. As we don't need to be absolutely zero.
Let alone the current issue of smog in cities will be a thing of the past, carbon particulates will be almost non existent and general air quality will be massively improved.
And no batteries are the future. Usa, EU and other countries have already committed to ev and batteries.
There are dozens of working prototype batteries typically ranging from 2-10times current capacity. So that would increase the range of the tesla-S from 300 miles, to 600-3000 miles. Most of these prototype batteries as well as storing significantly more, also charge far faster. Not all will make it to mass production, but we only need one. Even the bottom end of doubling current capacity, would make EV suitable for 99% of vehicles.
Once the grid goes green, then you look back at what builds it, which will be the grid. This will off course take many decades to complete.
Youll still of co2 from concrete and mining etc. but actual power will be zero and once that happens, we don't need to worry about co2 from mining. As we don't need to be absolutely zero.
Let alone the current issue of smog in cities will be a thing of the past, carbon particulates will be almost non existent and general air quality will be massively improved.
And no batteries are the future. Usa, EU and other countries have already committed to ev and batteries.
There are dozens of working prototype batteries typically ranging from 2-10times current capacity. So that would increase the range of the tesla-S from 300 miles, to 600-3000 miles. Most of these prototype batteries as well as storing significantly more, also charge far faster. Not all will make it to mass production, but we only need one. Even the bottom end of doubling current capacity, would make EV suitable for 99% of vehicles.
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Hey I'm not the one calling it zero green you are. And nothing in the world(as we know it) will ever be zero green.
IBMs lithium-air batteries look good with ten times the power but they will be used for servers.
There are car makers already designing turbines for cars The Whisper turbine will be about £1,000, James Allen done a piece on it.
Mind you Jaguar has invested £800million in the turbine\battery car I won't be alive to see but it looks awesome
It well be zero in many ways. It'll be zero at tail pipe, still be zero at creation etc.
It iis not how you put it at all. Renewable still produces far more energy than it costs to create, meaning it self sustaining, so its not built by oil, once its up and running. Ots like saying oil today is produced from our coal days.
And no turbines wont be the future, we've already seen the decline of hybrid cars. You may want to read eu 2050 road map, or usa equivalent or many other countries.
Its the same as people saying hydrogen is the future, with the research and a few demo cars, it isn't for many reasons.
Its also far more than just lithium air which is 10x the capacity and they can be used in ev as well.
It iis not how you put it at all. Renewable still produces far more energy than it costs to create, meaning it self sustaining, so its not built by oil, once its up and running. Ots like saying oil today is produced from our coal days.
And no turbines wont be the future, we've already seen the decline of hybrid cars. You may want to read eu 2050 road map, or usa equivalent or many other countries.
Its the same as people saying hydrogen is the future, with the research and a few demo cars, it isn't for many reasons.
Its also far more than just lithium air which is 10x the capacity and they can be used in ev as well.