Why do you think they shouldn't?
I've already said why.
You made the sweary hot air statement without qualification so let’s have the reason.
FIFA rejects FA's poppy appeal
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I've already said why.
You made the sweary hot air statement without qualification so let’s have the reason.
Because they are corrupt, dodgy voting for the world cups, sepp blatter the only running candidate for that last election.
Good enough for ya?
I don't see how the BBC are saying that's a 'compromise', considering they never said the team can't wear armbands, they just can't modify their shirts
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I don't see how the BBC are saying that's a 'compromise', considering they never said the team can't wear armbands, they just can't modify their shirts
The media will just call it a victory, Daily Mail had a three page article this morning about how wonderful they were to make them back down
It's a bit of a strange one, I totally agree with the wearing of the poppy but I can also see FIFA's standpoint about no political, religious or other nonsense on shirts. It's also a little odd that we are making such a big deal out of it this year when in previous years we have played on or around rememberance day without wearing poppies.
I think the poppies on the armband is the best compromise, gives us what we want and allows FIFA to say they haven't backed down over political/religious stuff on shirts.
I think the poppies on the armband is the best compromise, gives us what we want and allows FIFA to say they haven't backed down over political/religious stuff on shirts.
Because I really do not see why the PM should get involved in such decisions?
At the point in time Fifa made their decision, who is Cameron to question this and say they should re-think their decision?
Because he is the elected representetive and leader of the British people, who could possibly be better placed to express our disgust to FIFA?
So we're disgusted at following the rules that we agreed to follow by joining FIFA? I'm confused...
I'm certainly not disgusted by it, and I'd appreciate Cameron not wading into it all. Surely he has more important things to do with his time/surely there are better people to do this/surely the FA doesn't need to pick fights with FIFA over everything and continue alienating us further.
Indeed, not at all.
That is correct.
nothing at all to do with the poppy "business".
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I don't understand why it's become such a massive issue this year - we've played friendly games around this time in the past and it's not been a big deal.
Why do you have to wear a symbol to "prove" that you support something?
A far bigger gesture from the FA would be to donate the proceeds from that game to charity. I know the players already donate their match fees to charity.
Why do you have to wear a symbol to "prove" that you support something?
A far bigger gesture from the FA would be to donate the proceeds from that game to charity. I know the players already donate their match fees to charity.
Nail on the head. I was not born in the UK but have been living here for quite a while now, with some of my best friends being English, Scottish and Irish.
I love this country and its people but there is still this attitude of the former "Empire where the sun never sets" about it. Why would FIFA have to allow a different rule for the UK? I don't like FIFA as a body either but in this they are in the right.
My grandad fought the Nazis too (ironically in the land where John McCrae's poem was set) and yet I have always been bemused by the whole poppy appeal in this country. What started as a genuine sign of respect for fallen soldiers has turned into a reactionary media circus, just as fake as Hollywood emotions, where if you are not with us, you are against us. It has very much become political as a cheap form of patriotism in times of economic crisis. It's enough for me not to ever wear a poppy (and yes, I have respect for soldiers who fought in the World Wars, although I disapprove of the current wars that only provoke more terrorism instead of prevent it -- there I said it).
Good thing there are still journalists outside the Daily Rag like Jon Snow from Channel 4 who doesn't wear one on TV and Robert Fisk from The Independent, who wrote a provocative article about this last week, talking about a conversation with his dad, who fought in WWI:
The poppy has lost all its meaning now that it's been diluted with the Afghanistan/Iraq wars - it's no longer the symbol of standing up to singular repression and evil, or remembering the fallen in two of the most horrific wars of mankind. It's now all about 'Our Troops'. Yeah no thanks. The military fetishism doesn't interest me, nor does the perverse warping it has done to the poppy.