FIFA World Cup 2014 - GROUP F [Argentina, Bosnia-Hercegovina, Iran, Nigeria - 15/16/21/25 June] **sp

Lucky Argentina, Bosnia for majority of the game were the better side no doubt about it. But soon as Higuain came on, Argentina looked slightly better and Messi started playing slightly better as he was poop in the first half. Bosnia did a well enough job to mark him out till he scored that lovely goal of his.
Di Maria was utter **** tonight, had be been better Argies would have scored a few more.

Good game from Bosnia, i can see them qualifying for the next round...dont think Iran or Nigeria are going to cause them any real problems.
 
Always funny watching Messi's legs go like the clappers. Really enjoyed that game and all the itchy's. As well as Tia Maria. ¬¬
 
I'm sure that all the fans who have made the trip over will end up pumping quite a bit of money back into the Brazilian economy. Like they were just saying on the BBC, they should be protesting the government not protesting the World Cup.
 
Hospitals can stimulate the economy by providing jobs, but if there isn't private sector growth there will be less money anyway. Events like these bring in millions of tourists, which is a huge huge industry. As said it also helped pave the way for Rio Olympics, and frankly it was an excuse to partially crack down big time on the slum area's for criminals.

It's not great and like probably every public works in every country(with mostly bent politicians) there will be millions, billions in wasted money, inflated contracts to friends of politicians, it's the way the world works. :(

The rioting people really don't know what they are doing, the best thing for Brazil is to put a pretty face on the tournament, make Brazil seem lovely and persuade people to come visit, spend a few thousand on food, hotels, tourist attractions, it all means tax money, jobs and income. Rioting when the camera's are on when you're trying to effectively get worldwide advertising, is massively counter productive.

Thing is, most public works are a complete crap shoot, and many are disasters. At least there are some positive things, many many countries, particularly ours, waste billions on crappy things like ID schemes and failed NHS systems. The rail network, while expensive and flawed is being built with the intention of making somewhere out of London, which is frankly well beyond capacity, a viable city for business growth and population growth/commuting.

Media generally try and portray say a world cup as a short term thing that for some reason should pay back in profits instantly, and say because it doesn't it's a waste. They also highlight how much Fifa make, a couple billion, but there is effectively their entire budget(which isn't tiny) for 4 years, with every other tournament, under 21's, confed cup, womens cups, youth cups, all making losses. IIRC South Africa got around 650million, another 450million went on prize money, and Fifa got about 2 billion. THey invested a good portion of it and then like every single good non profit, they had a huge expenses budget.... :( Charity has been very profitable for those running them for a very long time, look at the catholic church. But it is still unfair to portray Fifa like it's pure profit, they give nothing back and they pocket it all, they pocket an unhealthily large amount, reinvest loads and spend a pretty huge chunk on the actual world cup itself.
 
Thing is since they been selected to host WC in 2007, unemployment rate came down almost twice:
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So did the poverty rate:
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And public expenditures on infrastructure were more than 2x bigger compared to stadiums' costs:
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I guess it's hard to please everyone.
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Another good game and a great goal by Messi. Bosnia should get out of the group on that showing, but I guess we'll know more tonight when the other two teams play.

What's that now 37 goals in 11 games with 11 wins. The only game to have only a single goal could easily of had more too. Loving this tournament so far.
 
I guess it's hard to please everyone.
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hehe, pretty much backs up what I said. These projects can do wonders, and leave a lasting legacy, unfortunately media/general public thinks the lasting legacy of the south african world cup is the stadium, but really it's the airport, and the rest. The same will be true of the Brazil world cup and olympics, it will be the massive work in transportation, the dam/hydroelectric plant(I followed it's progress a bit then forgot about it, it was having trouble but can't even remember if it was aimed to be finished for the world cup or the olympics).

Too many people can't see the positive side of the better public spending and too many politicians just get to say to the poorest people "look they're spending money on stadiums and not on you, vote us in next time".

Media and the opposition party will turn these events in to "it cost us 5billion to put on this event, but Fifa are giving us 500million, we're making massive losses and our government is crap". It's so far from the truth it's laughable. It's quite likely that ticket sales + actual flat cash from Fifa pay off the majority of stadium costs, the rest is spending on things that will last long after the world cup and benefit almost every city.
 
I thought Argentina were pretty poor for the most part surprisingly.

They were far better in the second half, and I'm at a loss to explain it. Messi just didn't bother in the first half, didn't bother for however long in the second half, then finally decided to start running.

Was he carrying an injury again and wasn't sure he could run faster so didn't try, were the team unsure of Messi or everyone if they could last 90 mins in those conditions so simply did not much for 60-70 mins... if so why the drastic changes at half time.

It's almost exactly what Messi has done for the past well, 15months or so, half arses a huge portion of most games, and wakes up for a few minutes and gets a goal. Can he just not be bothered, has he realised he can work hard for 90 mins and score 3 goals, or work hard for 4 minutes and get 1-2 goals in most games.

I honestly don't know, very odd to watch him look so completely uninterested in so many games, if he's lost the love for football then why does he celebrate so much when he does score. Nothing quite adds up with him at the moment.

They were playing I think too much like Barca, trying to make as much as possible go through Messi, and when he's in his teenager sulk mode, it killed almost every attack, when Messi came alive the team clicked again.
 
They were far better in the second half, and I'm at a loss to explain it. Messi just didn't bother in the first half, didn't bother for however long in the second half, then finally decided to start running.

Was he carrying an injury again and wasn't sure he could run faster so didn't try, were the team unsure of Messi or everyone if they could last 90 mins in those conditions so simply did not much for 60-70 mins... if so why the drastic changes at half time.

It's almost exactly what Messi has done for the past well, 15months or so, half arses a huge portion of most games, and wakes up for a few minutes and gets a goal. Can he just not be bothered, has he realised he can work hard for 90 mins and score 3 goals, or work hard for 4 minutes and get 1-2 goals in most games.

I honestly don't know, very odd to watch him look so completely uninterested in so many games, if he's lost the love for football then why does he celebrate so much when he does score. Nothing quite adds up with him at the moment.

They were playing I think too much like Barca, trying to make as much as possible go through Messi, and when he's in his teenager sulk mode, it killed almost every attack, when Messi came alive the team clicked again.

Maybe he lost his hunger to win? He does seem uninterested half the time as u said. When he used to run at defences at full pace he was unstoppable pity he rarely does that any more.

Last good game i seen him play was the Clasico when he scored the hat-trick and was involved in every attack Barca made.
 
I was slightly disappointed with Bosnia tbh. They are better than that. They got the defensive aspect spot on, but sacrificed their attacking a bit too much. Argentina were very beatable last night.
 
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