FIFA World Cup 2018 - GROUP G [Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England - 18/23/24/28 June] **spoilers**

Mr Jack said:
His arm wasn't raised it was pointed at the floor. It also wasn't at head height. The Tunisian literally ducks into it.

Foolish from Walker, yes, but poor refing to give it and worse to do so without consulting the available VAR.
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Are you for real? I suggest you go watch a video of the incident again. The Tunisian player was looking at the ball. Walker swung his arm back with intent. Look at his face, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Poor refing? Oh, please. It was the correct call. Why would he need to consult the VAR? Besides, if it was the wrong call the VAR would have alerted him, that's how it works.
 
trigg_27 said:
Has anyone pointed out that the referee was from Columbia - a team who would (before their surprise result against Japan) have expected to face the runner-up from group G in the round of 16?

It would be in their national interests for that runner up to be Tunisia instead of England...
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LOL, yes, sure. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?
 
Mr Jack said:
His arm wasn't raised it was pointed at the floor. It also wasn't at head height. The Tunisian literally ducks into it.

Foolish from Walker, yes, but poor refing to give it and worse to do so without consulting the available VAR.
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But don't forget if the VAR believes the referees decision is wrong, they can overrule him and tell him to change decisions, or at least make him look at the pitch side monitor to check his decision.

They had every angle and did not overrule, so obviously it was a clear cut penalty.
 
trigg_27 said:
Not very, when you consider the widespread corruption that exists within Columbia as a nation.

Of course it's always possible the referee was simply inept
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Yes, The Ref was responsible for all the easy opportunities that England missed.

And sure while you are making up ridiculous theories, the VAR were all payed off by Colombia as well to make sure England didn't make it through.
 
VAR is strictly advisory. They can suggest a referee look at a decision again or the referee can ask them to look at something he's unsure about, but the referee can choose to disregard their suggestion. Particularly on a subjective call like the Tunisia 'penalty'
 
Entai said:
But don't forget if the VAR believes the referees decision is wrong, they can overrule him and tell him to change decisions, or at least make him look at the pitch side monitor to check his decision.

They had every angle and did not overrule, so obviously it was a clear cut penalty.
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Didn't you hear? It's all a conspiracy to keep England from reaching the last 16.:D
 
trigg_27 said:
VAR is strictly advisory. They can suggest a referee look at a decision again or the referee can ask them to look at something he's unsure about, but the referee can choose to disregard their suggestion. Particularly on a subjective call like the Tunisia 'penalty'
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Except it's not subjective. It was a penalty. The most clear cut penalty of the World Cup so far.
 
melmac said:
Yes, The Ref was responsible for all the easy opportunities that England missed.

And sure while you are making up ridiculous theories, the VAR were all payed off by Colombia as well to make sure England didn't make it through.
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England were responsible for their missed opportunities and managed to win despite the referee's involvement. Not simply in the 3 penalty decisions, but their entire approach to the game. Constant tactical fouls by the Tunisia team which didn't result in a single yellow card, regularly stopping the game for non-existent injuries to Tunisia players, their player standing within 3 yards of a free kick with impunity - there's a whole catalogue of incidents.

I could understand people calling 'sour grapes' if we had lost or drawn the game, but we won and this is still being highlighted. That would suggest there's an actual issue to be addressed, rather than the usual complaints about a ref when things don't go your way
 
melmac said:
Except it's not subjective. It was a penalty. The most clear cut penalty of the World Cup so far.
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Inasmuch as many people feel the Tunisian player ran into the arm and collapsed, and as such should have received a card for diving, the Tunisia penalty is both subjective and far from clear-cut
 
trigg_27 said:
Inasmuch as many people feel the Tunisian player ran into the arm and collapsed, and as such should have received a card for diving, the Tunisia penalty is both subjective and far from clear-cut
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LOL Sorry, a dive? I would question the objectivity of anyone who said that was dive, I would also question their knowledge of the game.

No, it's a clear cut penalty. If the positions had been reversed and it was an English attacker versus a Tunisian Defender, all those people would be screaming that it was a penalty. They would have been demanding a red a card for the deliberate elbow to the head. I guarantee you that.
 
It's a clear penalty, ignore the idiots with English bias doing the 'analysis' on BBC. We should have had one too but that doesn't change how clear it was.
 
melmac said:
Are you for real? I suggest you go watch a video of the incident again. The Tunisian player was looking at the ball. Walker swung his arm back with intent. Look at his face, he knew exactly what he was doing.
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I've watched it many times. The Tunisian is absolutely looking for it, and fools the ref. You can see from the Tunisian's reaction how pleased he is with his little stunt, slapping his thighs in delight after throwing himself at the floor.
 
Mr Jack said:
I've watched it many times. The Tunisian is absolutely looking for it, and fools the ref. You can see from the Tunisian's reaction how pleased he is with his little stunt, slapping his thighs in delight after throwing himself at the floor.
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It doesnt matter if hes looking for it...loads of players do. What matters is Walkers has shoved his arm out and blocked his run. Its so clear cut.
 
melmac said:
Except it's not subjective. It was a penalty. The most clear cut penalty of the World Cup so far.
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A lot of football is subjective, hence the 'controversy' and discussion that can arise from any single game. Although it is often clouded by bias, even the neutral can have a subjective opinion. Penalty decisions can rarely be said to be categorically 100% correct.
In my own subjective opinion, it was by no means the most clear cut penalty of the world cup so far, not even close. In your subjective opinion maybe.

TBF your posting style is very much subjective. You don't let the facts get in the way of your own opinion.
 
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